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teletype

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:43 am
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There is this technique now no longer rare in the parasites world, where
a few processes running in the background, and once "you" try to
terminate one of them, the other process tries to restore it
immediately. The same with deleting files.

I wonder if this technique has a name.

Telli

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:43 am
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teletype wrote:

> There is this technique where a few processes running in the
> background, and once "you" try to terminate one of them, the
> other process tries to restore it immediately. The same with
> deleting files.
>
> I wonder if this technique has a name.

Yes, the technique is called Windows XP (eXtra Processes).

XP spends a good chunk of the CPU's resources just watching itself.

Try to delete a directory called "MSN Gaming zone".

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:43 am
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teletype wrote:

> There is this technique now no longer rare in the parasites world,
> where a few processes running in the background, and once "you" try
> to terminate one of them, the other process tries to restore it
> immediately. The same with deleting files.
>
> I wonder if this technique has a name.
>
> Telli

I don't know, but if you type the following search phrase into Google
(with the quotes exactly as given) you'll find lots of references to
an early example. Maybe some research based on that will yield a term
for the technique. Failing that, perhaps a new name could be based on
the example...

"Robin Hood" "Friar Tuck" computer virus

HTH

John
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:11 am
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"teletype" <teletype DeleteThis @address.is.invalid> wrote in message news:673j329quoc1gjj639hte88do6ech5eoo9@4ax.com...
> There is this technique now no longer rare in the parasites world, where
> a few processes running in the background, and once "you" try to
> terminate one of them, the other process tries to restore it
> immediately. The same with deleting files.
>
> I wonder if this technique has a name.

Guardian.
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Gabriele Neukam

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:22 am
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On that special day, John Foster, (john@address.invalid) said...

> Failing that, perhaps a new name could be based on
> the example...

Companion resurrection?


Gabriele Neukam

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:53 pm
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 23:40:29 +0000, John Foster <john.TakeThisOut@address.invalid>
wrote:

>I don't know, but if you type the following search phrase into Google
>(with the quotes exactly as given) you'll find lots of references to
>an early example. Maybe some research based on that will yield a term
>for the technique. Failing that, perhaps a new name could be based on
>the example...
>
>"Robin Hood" "Friar Tuck" computer virus

Thank for this interesting info.

Looking for this combination of keywords, I found an article in the Sep
2002 issue of Virus Bulletin, where they mention a presentation by Peter
Szor in the 1999 conference of the Virus Bulletin, where he called this
technique "The Twins". I prefer either Gabriele Neukam's "companion
resurrection" or my "watch my back".

Telli
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Nick FitzGerald

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:17 pm
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"teletype" <teletype.TakeThisOut@address.is.invalid> wrote:

> There is this technique now no longer rare in the parasites world, where
> a few processes running in the background, and once "you" try to
> terminate one of them, the other process tries to restore it
> immediately. The same with deleting files.
>
> I wonder if this technique has a name.

That is one of several techniques that falls under the general term
"guardian". I use this a fair deal, but I'd hesitate to say it is common
usage yet.


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