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Since: Jun 11, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 2:13 pm
Post subject: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment
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I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
I deleted the e-mail immediately.
Yet shortly thereafter McAfee AV told me that the trojan "ebscam" had been
detected and cleaned.
There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
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Since: Jun 06, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:13 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Nosy Boraha wrote:
| I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
| I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
| I deleted the e-mail immediately.
| Yet shortly thereafter McAfee AV told me that the trojan "ebscam" had
| been detected and cleaned.
| There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
| What do you think?
In Outlook Express Goto Tools/Options/Read and check:
*Read all messages in plain text*
HTML email is very dfangerous and don't need any attachment to infect
your system.
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Since: Jun 11, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 3:29 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"StarScripter" <Star DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote
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> In Outlook Express Goto Tools/Options/Read and check:
> *Read all messages in plain text*
> HTML email is very dfangerous and don't need any attachment to infect
> your system.
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> S.S.
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Thank you, I have received phishing messages before and they were quite
elaborate, but this one was very plain it just looked like a completely
ordinary e-mail, absolutely nothing fancy.
The HTML code must have been hidden 
I deleted the message immediately anyway and therefore cannot examine it
more closely to figure it out.
But I will follow your advice.
Thanks also to the previous responder. >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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Since: Jan 22, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 6:36 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Are you using outlook express and if so do you have the preview panel
enabled? If the preview panel is enabled it almost the same as opening the
email and you can get a virus, etc. You can disable the preview pane at
view/layout under preview pane uncheck it. This will just display your
messages, which you can then highlight and delete them without actually
opening them in the preview panel.
"Nosy Boraha" <methinks RemoveThis @meforgot.org> wrote in message
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> I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
> I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
> I deleted the e-mail immediately.
> Yet shortly thereafter McAfee AV told me that the trojan "ebscam" had been
> detected and cleaned.
> There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
> What do you think?
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> >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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Since: Sep 19, 2003
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2004 10:43 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Nosy Boraha" <methinks.RemoveThis@meforgot.org> wrote in message news:10cjthsif9o0307@corp.supernews.com...
> can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment
Yes.
> I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
Just send the money to me, and I'll pay them for you. ;o)
> I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
> I deleted the e-mail immediately.
Sent to the deleted items folder? Sent to the recycle bin?
> Yet shortly thereafter McAfee AV told me that the trojan "ebscam" had been
> detected and cleaned.
Where did it find the trojan (that information should be logged in your
AV programs log)? It is possible that HTML e-mail could have caused
something to be placed in your temporary internet files folder and McAfee
found it there.
> There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
> What do you think?
Attachments aren't always a necessary part of malicious e-mail. Just
opening an HTML e-mail can be equivalent to visiting a nefarious
website. In fact, there are other ways besides HTML to exploit OE.
In this case, it appears that you didn't get bit (unless you actually followed
the links in the e-mail). >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:20 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake>
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> Where did it find the trojan (that information should be logged in your
> AV programs log)? It is possible that HTML e-mail could have caused
> something to be placed in your temporary internet files folder and McAfee
> found it there.
On previous occasions I have found trojan / viruses in the temp. int. folder
but not this time.
It was in shell windows com fileassoc something like this I quote from
memory.
Can't find a trace of it in McAfee AV....
> > There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
> > What do you think?
> Attachments aren't always a necessary part of malicious e-mail. Just
> opening an HTML e-mail can be equivalent to visiting a nefarious
> website. In fact, there are other ways besides HTML to exploit OE.
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> In this case, it appears that you didn't get bit (unless you actually
followed
> the links in the e-mail). >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 12:25 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"FromTheRafters" wrote
> "Nosy Boraha" wrote
> > can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment
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> Yes.
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> > I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
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> Just send the money to me, and I'll pay them for you. ;o)
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> > I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
> > I deleted the e-mail immediately.
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> Sent to the deleted items folder? Sent to the recycle bin?
It was already in the deleted items folder.
I deleted it from this folder. >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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Since: Sep 06, 2004
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:38 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"StarScripter" <Star RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message news:<2iuej7Fqk77nU1 RemoveThis @uni-berlin.de>...
> Nosy Boraha wrote:
> | I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
> | I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
> | I deleted the e-mail immediately.
> | Yet shortly thereafter McAfee AV told me that the trojan "ebscam" had
> | been detected and cleaned.
> | There was no attachment as I recall and I did not click on anything.
> | What do you think?
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> In Outlook Express Goto Tools/Options/Read and check:
> *Read all messages in plain text*
> HTML email is very dfangerous and don't need any attachment to infect
> your system.
why doesn't microsoft make its system safe and secure by default
i hate that >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 6:41 pm
Post subject: Re: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"russbucket" <russbucket.RemoveThis@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:<zMednT8MGOWow1fd4p2dnA.RemoveThis@centurytel.net>...
> Are you using outlook express and if so do you have the preview panel
> enabled? If the preview panel is enabled it almost the same as opening the
> email and you can get a virus, etc. You can disable the preview pane at
> view/layout under preview pane uncheck it. This will just display your
> messages, which you can then highlight and delete them without actually
> opening them in the preview panel.
>
how can i do this in outlook?
how can i disable this preview thing? >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:47 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:54 am
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Mike Henley wrote:
> "russbucket" <russbucket.TakeThisOut@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:<zMednT8MGOWow1fd4p2dnA.TakeThisOut@centurytel.net>...
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>>Are you using outlook express and if so do you have the preview panel
>>enabled? If the preview panel is enabled it almost the same as opening the
>>email and you can get a virus, etc. You can disable the preview pane at
>>view/layout under preview pane uncheck it. This will just display your
>>messages, which you can then highlight and delete them without actually
>>opening them in the preview panel.
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> how can i do this in outlook?
> how can i disable this preview thing?
Check the tool bar, directly under under your menu bar. There should be
a button for preview pane. Click it for each mailbox you open. It
toggles the preview pane on and off. In the lates version of Outlook I
believe you can turn off HTML. I know you can create a "hack" in OfficeXP. >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:21 am
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"optikl" <optikl.TakeThisOut@invalid.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Henley wrote:
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> > "russbucket" <russbucket.TakeThisOut@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:<zMednT8MGOWow1fd4p2dnA.TakeThisOut@centurytel.net>...
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> >>Are you using outlook express and if so do you have the preview panel
> >>enabled? If the preview panel is enabled it almost the same as opening
the
> >>email and you can get a virus, etc. You can disable the preview pane at
> >>view/layout under preview pane uncheck it. This will just display your
> >>messages, which you can then highlight and delete them without actually
> >>opening them in the preview panel.
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> > how can i do this in outlook?
> > how can i disable this preview thing?
>
> Check the tool bar, directly under under your menu bar. There should be
> a button for preview pane. Click it for each mailbox you open. It
> toggles the preview pane on and off. In the lates version of Outlook I
> believe you can turn off HTML. I know you can create a "hack" in OfficeXP.
The Preview Pane button comes with *Advanced*, via Tools | Customise |
Toolbars.
Shane >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 2:49 pm
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"Nosy Boraha" <methinks DeleteThis @meforgot.org> wrote in message news:10cp00qq3132b5d@corp.supernews.com...
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> "FromTheRafters" wrote
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> > "Nosy Boraha" wrote
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> > > can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attachment
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> > Yes.
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> > > I recently got an e-mail which claimed I owed e-bay 15 bucks.
> >
> > Just send the money to me, and I'll pay them for you. ;o)
> >
> > > I don't have have an e-bay account nor have I used it ever.
> > > I deleted the e-mail immediately.
> >
> > Sent to the deleted items folder? Sent to the recycle bin?
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> It was already in the deleted items folder.
> I deleted it from this folder.
Detection of items deleted in this manner can still be achieved unless and
until the folders are compacted. It is sort of the same as with files deleted
from the harddrive - they are still on the disk unless and until the disk is
defragmented and/or that data is overwritten with new data. >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 5:27 pm
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My Preview on/off option in OE v6 comes under View | Layout!
Leo
"Shane" <arthursixpence RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "optikl" <optikl RemoveThis @invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:Az7zc.48064$Sw.45661@attbi_s51...
> > Mike Henley wrote:
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> > > "russbucket" <russbucket RemoveThis @centurytel.net> wrote in message
> news:<zMednT8MGOWow1fd4p2dnA RemoveThis @centurytel.net>...
> > >
> > >>Are you using outlook express and if so do you have the preview panel
> > >>enabled? If the preview panel is enabled it almost the same as opening
> the
> > >>email and you can get a virus, etc. You can disable the preview pane
at
> > >>view/layout under preview pane uncheck it. This will just display your
> > >>messages, which you can then highlight and delete them without
actually
> > >>opening them in the preview panel.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > how can i do this in outlook?
> > > how can i disable this preview thing?
> >
> > Check the tool bar, directly under under your menu bar. There should be
> > a button for preview pane. Click it for each mailbox you open. It
> > toggles the preview pane on and off. In the lates version of Outlook I
> > believe you can turn off HTML. I know you can create a "hack" in
OfficeXP.
>
> The Preview Pane button comes with *Advanced*, via Tools | Customise |
> Toolbars.
>
> Shane
>
> >> Stay informed about: can you get a virus / trojan from an e-mail w/o any attach.. |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 6:05 pm
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