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RB

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:27 am
Post subject: do virus messages leave footprints in sending computers?
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If a person has an virus infected computer that is sending out email using
email addresses harvested from the address book, will it be detectable to
the owner/operator that this is happening? Or, do the little nasties do
their work silently and invisibly so that the operator doesn't have a clue?

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Dan Sawyer

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:27 am
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Apparently the thing that makes SWEN effective is it uses addresses from
network postings such as newsgroups. (like this one)

Dan


RB <rbigg.DeleteThis@seii.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:bkpl8p$kbh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> If a person has an virus infected computer that is sending out email using
> email addresses harvested from the address book, will it be detectable to
> the owner/operator that this is happening? Or, do the little nasties do
> their work silently and invisibly so that the operator doesn't have a
clue?
>
>

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Scott Tyler

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 12:50 pm
Post subject: Re: do virus messages leave footprints in sending computers? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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exactly, i have 2 addys..
the one I NEVER use on newsgroups has yet to recieve a "microsoft" message.

the other was gettng 100's..I have it down to a few a day now by using
filtering.




"Dan Sawyer" <dansawyer RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Apparently the thing that makes SWEN effective is it uses addresses from
> network postings such as newsgroups. (like this one)
>
> Dan
>
>
> RB <rbigg RemoveThis @seii.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:bkpl8p$kbh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> > If a person has an virus infected computer that is sending out email
using
> > email addresses harvested from the address book, will it be detectable
to
> > the owner/operator that this is happening? Or, do the little nasties do
> > their work silently and invisibly so that the operator doesn't have a
> clue?
> >
> >
>
>
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GSV Three Minds in a Can

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:59 pm
Post subject: Re: do virus messages leave footprints in sending computers? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Bitstring <bkpl8p$kbh$1@news.utelfla.com>, from the wonderful person RB
<rbigg RemoveThis @seii.nospam.net> said
>If a person has an virus infected computer that is sending out email using
>email addresses harvested from the address book, will it be detectable to
>the owner/operator that this is happening? Or, do the little nasties do
>their work silently and invisibly so that the operator doesn't have a clue?

If they have their own SMTP server (which Swen, Gibe, etc. all do) then
there is no trace on the originating PC (apart from LOTS of bytes going
out over the network to the ISP). Plus of course the virus .exe is
there, if you look for it.

Dialup users would probably notice - broadband users apparently don't.
8<,

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"Steve M

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:08 pm
Post subject: Re: do virus messages leave footprints in sending computers? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Mine are coming to the address that I normally give only to personal
acquaintances. Unfortunately, I also used it by mistake a few times
in postings to NANAS (spam sightings).

On the other hand, the one I am using on Usenet now (munged, see
below) is still clean.


On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:50:59 -0500, "Scott Tyler"
<Profireman1NOSPAM.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote:

>exactly, i have 2 addys..
>the one I NEVER use on newsgroups has yet to recieve a "microsoft" message.
>
>the other was gettng 100's..I have it down to a few a day now by using
>filtering.
>
>
>"Dan Sawyer" <dansawyer.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:2xmcna3yJ94zwO2iXTWJkg@comcast.com...
>> Apparently the thing that makes SWEN effective is it uses addresses from
>> network postings such as newsgroups. (like this one)
>>
>> Dan

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FromTheRafters

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:33 pm
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"RB" <rbigg.DeleteThis@seii.nospam.net> wrote in message news:bkpl8p$kbh$1@news.utelfla.com...
> If a person has an virus infected computer that is sending out email using
> email addresses harvested from the address book, will it be detectable to
> the owner/operator that this is happening? Or, do the little nasties do
> their work silently and invisibly so that the operator doesn't have a clue?

Most operators don't have a clue. They wouldn't really
notice signs that would be noticeable to others. They
may see that their typing didn't show up as quickly as
normal, or that their cursor was a little sluggish, but
think nothing of it. The faster the machine, the less it
would be noticed.

As for leaving footprints, worm files may be found if
looked for, but viral "infected" files mostly must be
looked within. Mass mailing is more a wormlike thing
than a viruslike thing.
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