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Larry

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:56 pm
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My Norton program was apparently working fine scanning all incoming email
for viruses. Over the last two days all my email has been coming with
these words in the subject column: WARNING(virus check bypassed). What
does this mean? I haven't changed any settings in outlook express or on
Norton program. Why would the virus check be bypassed? Could it be
something on Comcast (ISP) end? Is it the Norton program that is resposible
for these warnings? Thanks for any suggestions.

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Bill

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:55 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:55 am
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:49 am
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No solution, but to confirm I'm as well getting a similar message AND
am on the comcast.net domain.

"Larry" <noemail.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message news:<HP-dnQdknLF-GcOiU-KYuA.DeleteThis@comcast.com>...
> My Norton program was apparently working fine scanning all incoming email
> for viruses. Over the last two days all my email has been coming with
> these words in the subject column: WARNING(virus check bypassed). What
> does this mean? I haven't changed any settings in outlook express or on
> Norton program. Why would the virus check be bypassed? Could it be
> something on Comcast (ISP) end? Is it the Norton program that is resposible
> for these warnings? Thanks for any suggestions.
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FromTheRafters

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 3:36 pm
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"Larry" <noemail.RemoveThis@email.com> wrote in message news:HP-dnQdknLF-GcOiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> My Norton program was apparently working fine scanning all incoming email
> for viruses. Over the last two days all my email has been coming with
> these words in the subject column: WARNING(virus check bypassed). What
> does this mean? I haven't changed any settings in outlook express or on
> Norton program. Why would the virus check be bypassed? Could it be
> something on Comcast (ISP) end? Is it the Norton program that is resposible
> for these warnings? Thanks for any suggestions.

My guess is that your ISP has bypassed the virus
checking so that they won't be notifying the forged
"From:" address needlessly. Clients who have come
to rely on the ISP's AV (which is a mistake anyway
if you ask me) are thus being notified of the absence
(temporarily?) of that service. If this is the case, it is
a step in the right direction.
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Larry

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:25 pm
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"FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
news:vluvi6a2blt71c@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Larry" <noemail.DeleteThis@email.com> wrote in message
news:HP-dnQdknLF-GcOiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > My Norton program was apparently working fine scanning all incoming
email
> > for viruses. Over the last two days all my email has been coming with
> > these words in the subject column: WARNING(virus check bypassed). What
> > does this mean? I haven't changed any settings in outlook express or on
> > Norton program. Why would the virus check be bypassed? Could it be
> > something on Comcast (ISP) end? Is it the Norton program that is
resposible
> > for these warnings? Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> My guess is that your ISP has bypassed the virus
> checking so that they won't be notifying the forged
> "From:" address needlessly. Clients who have come
> to rely on the ISP's AV (which is a mistake anyway
> if you ask me) are thus being notified of the absence
> (temporarily?) of that service. If this is the case, it is
> a step in the right direction.

Interesting. I'm a bit of a novice and I think I only understand some of
your reply. I was never aware Comcast screened my email for viruses and I
don't believe they ever advertised this service. I would think they would
mention this, if they performed it - as it would attract/satisfy some
customers. I know I've received viruses in emails before. Are you saying
my Norton is likely still screening my email, despite this message - as this
would make me happier. I don't follow the other stuff about the forged
address - sorry. Who would be notifying who, and why would they want to
avoid it?

Thanks for the reply though and I found it more helpful that Bill's,
although I'm sure he's doing his best to be helpful here.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 6:16 pm
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"Larry" <noemail RemoveThis @email.com> wrote in message news:vIKcnctwY5xgXcKiU-KYvA@comcast.com...
>
> "FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
> news:vluvi6a2blt71c@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > "Larry" <noemail RemoveThis @email.com> wrote in message
> news:HP-dnQdknLF-GcOiU-KYuA@comcast.com...
> > > My Norton program was apparently working fine scanning all incoming
> email
> > > for viruses. Over the last two days all my email has been coming with
> > > these words in the subject column: WARNING(virus check bypassed). What
> > > does this mean? I haven't changed any settings in outlook express or on
> > > Norton program. Why would the virus check be bypassed? Could it be
> > > something on Comcast (ISP) end? Is it the Norton program that is
> resposible
> > > for these warnings? Thanks for any suggestions.
> >
> > My guess is that your ISP has bypassed the virus
> > checking so that they won't be notifying the forged
> > "From:" address needlessly. Clients who have come
> > to rely on the ISP's AV (which is a mistake anyway
> > if you ask me) are thus being notified of the absence
> > (temporarily?) of that service. If this is the case, it is
> > a step in the right direction.
>
> Interesting. I'm a bit of a novice and I think I only understand some of
> your reply. I was never aware Comcast screened my email for viruses and I
> don't believe they ever advertised this service.

Maybe they don't, like I said it was only a guess. I suppose
that you could ask them. It could be that they don't scan
to provide a service to the customer, but rather to be a good
netizen by filtering out the prevalent mass mailers.

> I would think they would
> mention this, if they performed it - as it would attract/satisfy some
> customers. I know I've received viruses in emails before. Are you saying
> my Norton is likely still screening my email, despite this message -

I don't know, I have never used an e-mail scanning AV product,
but I assume that if it was a Norton AV message they wouldn't
miss an opportunity to mention their name in the message.

You could test your e-mail scanning with a test file like the
EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE

X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*

The above 68 characters, alone in an attached file named eicar.com
should cause Norton to alert if it is scanning e-mail. You can Google
for EICAR and find some places willing to send the test file to you
if you can't send it to yourself (or have a friend do it).

> as this
> would make me happier. I don't follow the other stuff about the forged
> address - sorry.

Additional unneeded information....

> Who would be notifying who,

The system identifying the fact that an e-mail was found to contain
a worm (kinda like a virus) would want to inform the infected
party so that they could take steps to clean up their machine.

> and why would they want to avoid it?

Many of the recent mass mailing worms lie about who sent them,
so informing the apparent sender only aggravates the innocent
"Joe-jobbed" party, and does nothing to inform the actual infected
victim (sender). Many people are practically getting "mail-bombed"
by the AV programs which are trying to do a good deed (in a very
misguided way).

> Thanks for the reply though and I found it more helpful that Bill's,
> although I'm sure he's doing his best to be helpful here.

Hmmm....
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