Getting rid of Norton

On 22 Aug, 09:46, "Retired" <a....RemoveThis@privacy.com> wrote:
> I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month trial
> of Norton pre-installed.
> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change
> and will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it
> pops up from time to time.
> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer expert.
>
> Retired

It is not as hard with the latest versions as it used to be. Just
ensure that you remove it before installing Avast! to reduce possible
problems.
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Retired was thinking very hard :
> I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month trial
> of Norton pre-installed.
> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change and
> will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it pops
> up from time to time.
> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer expert.

Please use this "tool" (provided by Symantec):
http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html

If you buy a new computer with pre-installed software,
maybe you should this:
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/removes

These two tools should be used immediately
after the first time you start your new PC,
and before you are connected to the Internet.

To do Windows Update before you are connected to the Internet,
consider downloading and using Autopatcher:
http://www.autopatcher.com/

(advice from another pensioner)

--
Fred Wening (NL)
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Retired wrote:
>
>> I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month
>> trial of Norton pre-installed. I have always found Avast to be
>> satisfactory, and see no reason to change and will want to totally
>> remove Norton from the machine. Friends tell me this is virtually
>> impossible - even once uninstalled, it pops up from time to time. Any
>> advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer
>> expert.
>
> They have a tool to remove their own software.
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
>
>> Retired
>
> <aol>Me too!!!1!!</aol>
>

I've never had a problem removing pre-installed stuff, including Norton
(2002 version). I use zone alarm and avast. Avast has an annoying
problem that sometimes prevents winxp from shutting down without
manually killing the process and I can't seem to fix it.
Can one still get new machines with winxp. My scanner isn't going to
work under vista.
Dave Cohen
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"FredW" <fredw DeleteThis @ninmule.invalid> wrote in message
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> Retired was thinking very hard :
>> I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month
>> trial of Norton pre-installed.
>> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change
>> and will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
>> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it
>> pops up from time to time.
>> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer
>> expert.
>
> Please use this "tool" (provided by Symantec):
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/Norton_Removal_Tool_SymNRT_d4749.html
>
> If you buy a new computer with pre-installed software,
> maybe you should this:
> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
> http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/removes
>
> These two tools should be used immediately
> after the first time you start your new PC,
> and before you are connected to the Internet.
>
> To do Windows Update before you are connected to the Internet,
> consider downloading and using Autopatcher:
> http://www.autopatcher.com/
>
> (advice from another pensioner)
>
> --
> Fred Wening (NL)
>
Thanks for the advice - the HP computer on order has 14 items of software
listed.
I don't think I need any of them; certainly not trial editions which die in
due course leaving rubbish on my computer.

Retired
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"Retired" <anon DeleteThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
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>I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month trial
>of Norton pre-installed.
> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change
> and will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it
> pops up from time to time.
> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer
> expert.
>
> Retired
>
The instructions from Symantec state you first try to remove it from
add/remove in the control panel. If it still
remains, you should use their removal tool.

In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it although
there still remained a folder and some files. I just renamed the files.
After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I deleted the folder.

The computer does seem to run faster now.

Jim
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Jim wrote:
[snip]
> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it
> although there still remained a folder and some files. I just
> renamed the files. After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I
> deleted the folder.
>
> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>
> Jim

Well, I'm curious.
Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
renamed files and the folder they were in?
I would think the former.
If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to uninstall
ZoneAlarm.
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>>
>
> I've never had a problem removing pre-installed stuff, including Norton
> (2002 version). I use zone alarm and avast. Avast has an annoying problem
> that sometimes prevents winxp from shutting down without manually killing
> the process and I can't seem to fix it.
> Can one still get new machines with winxp. My scanner isn't going to work
> under vista.
> Dave Cohen

The answer seems to be yes, if you're quick
Both Dabs and e-buyer have HP and Acer computers with XP
Buying XP for the same reason, neither my scanner or printer will work under
Vista

Retired
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"Retired" <anon.TakeThisOut@privacy.com> wrote in message
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>
> Can one still get new machines with winxp. My scanner isn't going to work
>> under vista.
>> Dave Cohen
>
> The answer seems to be yes, if you're quick
> Both Dabs and e-buyer have HP and Acer computers with XP
> Buying XP for the same reason, neither my scanner or printer will work
> under Vista
>
> Retired
>
Am buying a laptop from the below firm. They seem to sell PC's with and
without an OS.

https://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/nbrange.html?X60

Ray.
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"Buffalo" <Eric.RemoveThis@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> Jim wrote:
> [snip]
>> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it
>> although there still remained a folder and some files. I just
>> renamed the files. After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I
>> deleted the folder.
>>
>> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Well, I'm curious.
> Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> renamed files and the folder they were in?
> I would think the former.
> If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm.
>
>
>
It ran faster after I uninstalled Norton. The files in the left over folder
were not accessed after Norton left.

I am now using AVG on the computer.

Jim
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It's really not as easy as that.

Symantec has a bad habit of putting files all over your disks and you need
to manually delete any files you find after removing the program using the
add/remove program and the Norton removal tool has done its thing.

After all that you should run a registry program and the defrag because
there will be more troubles caused by Norton programs.

Be sure to back up the registry before doing anything there.

Regards,


"Jim" <j.n RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Retired" <anon RemoveThis @privacy.com> wrote in message
> news:13cntnc9uhtupf9@corp.supernews.com...
>>I am buying a new computer (with XP, not Vista!) which has a 3 month
>>trial of Norton pre-installed.
>> I have always found Avast to be satisfactory, and see no reason to change
>> and will want to totally remove Norton from the machine.
>> Friends tell me this is virtually impossible - even once uninstalled, it
>> pops up from time to time.
>> Any advice or comments please for a pensioner who is not a computer
>> expert.
>>
>> Retired
>>
> The instructions from Symantec state you first try to remove it from
> add/remove in the control panel. If it still
> remains, you should use their removal tool.
>
> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it although
> there still remained a folder and some files. I just renamed the files.
> After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I deleted the folder.
>
> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>
> Jim
>
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"Bullwinkle" <moose.RemoveThis@moose.com> wrote in message
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> It's really not as easy as that.
>
> Symantec has a bad habit of putting files all over your disks and you need
> to manually delete any files you find after removing the program using the
> add/remove program and the Norton removal tool has done its thing.
>
> After all that you should run a registry program and the defrag because
> there will be more troubles caused by Norton programs.
>
> Be sure to back up the registry before doing anything there.
>
> Regards,
>
>
> "Jim" <

Hell, try uninstalling ZA completely.
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"Jim" <j.n.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Buffalo" <Eric.DeleteThis@nada.com.invalid> wrote in message
[snip]
> > Well, I'm curious.
> > Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> > renamed files and the folder they were in?
> > I would think the former.
> > If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to
uninstall
> > ZoneAlarm.
> >
> >
> >
> It ran faster after I uninstalled Norton. The files in the left over
folder
> were not accessed after Norton left.
>
> I am now using AVG on the computer.
>
> Jim

Thanks for the reply.
I use AVG as well, but I don't think it is as effective as Norton, but, it
might not impact your system as much.
I do practice 'safe hex', mostly.
Overall, I never did notice Norton AntiVirus slowing down my system.
I think that the problem that many have with Norton slowing things down, is
that they run everthing Norton Systemworks has to offer.
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Buffalo wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> [snip]
>> In my case, the first step failed. The second step removed it
>> although there still remained a folder and some files. I just
>> renamed the files. After a few days, when nothing bad happened, I
>> deleted the folder.
>>
>> The computer does seem to run faster now.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Well, I'm curious.
> Did it run faster after you uninstalled Norton, or after you deleted the
> renamed files and the folder they were in?
> I would think the former.
> If you had trouble removing Norton completely, don't ever try to uninstall
> ZoneAlarm.
>
>
>
I maintain an xpcopy partition for trying out downloads etc. I had no
problem removing zone alarm to see if it had any effect on my avast
shutdown problem (it didn't). Replaced ZA with Kerio, prefer ZA.
Dave Cohen
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