Free AntiVir vs Free BitDefender

External Since: Aug 31, 2007 Posts: 1

Vanguard on 8/31/2007 in
alt.comp.anti-virus,<6I-dnZ94ApNMxkXbnZ2dnUVZ_t-gnZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>
after much thought,came p with this jewel:

> "What's in a Name?" wrote in message news:fb91jt$s2e$1@aioe.org...
> >
> > Vanguard wrote:
> > >
> > > Accessing the net is not what the avnotify.exe window is about.
> > > It is nagware to get you to buy their commercialware. You need
> > > to use an IPS (intrusion protection system), like System Safety
> > > Monitor or ProcessGuard, to prevent avnotify.exe from loading in
> > > the first place.
> > >
> > > Don't what the point would be to use the free version, anyway.
> > > The current downloads available will expire after 3 months, go
> > > into "demo" mode for another month, and then you don't get
> > > updates after the 4th month. So you get a 3-month trial
> > > although Avira doesn't tell you that. Do a download of their
> > > latest version into a VM, like in VMWare Server or Virtual PC,
> > > don't do an update, move the clock forward 4.5 months, reboot,
> > > and then try to do an update. You'll get an error in the log
> > > saying that you don't have a valid license which results in not
> > > getting an update. Good AV if you buy it. Free version
> > > self-destructs.
> >
> > I don't know about all that self-destruction Mr Flint, but here are
> > your instructions if you choose to accept them.
> >
> > Quote from the AntiVir forums.....
> >
> > "you can download a new keyfile from here:
> >
> > http://dl1.avgate.net/down/windows/hbedv.key
>
> Did that. The file download link is on the same page as the product
> download link. Didn't help. Product still expired after 3 months
> (into demo mode and then refused sig updates after 4 months). See
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qtwto (Google Groups copy of my prior 2
> posts on testing the expiration). In the 2nd post, 2nd step
> should've said, "Download new hbdev.key file and installed it."
>
> Even if it had worked to extend the license, this is worse than
> nagware which AntiVir became after Avira got their hands on it. Not
> only are users inflicted with popup "buy us" nag windows but they
> need to periodically go grab another license key file? And do so
> again after the next 3 months? And again, and so on?
>
> So, yes, I did chose to accept the instructions. Didn't work for me
> to extend the license, though. I installed the product Aug 20 but
> the expiration remained the end of November with or without the
> supposedly newer hbdev.key file.
>
> It has good coverage, maybe the highest, for its scan modes. I'd
> only recommend it as a 3-month trial and keeping it only by buying it
> to get past its nuisances.

I don't think that the November expiration means much. I installed
AntiVir on my son's box 2 years ago and there has been no issues with
downloads(it still updates regularly) or the expiration date(Nov). For
me,the "nag" screen is no big deal(a small price to pay for a great
product. I just installed it the other day on my W2K laptop(which I
flatten/install every so often) and it has the Nov. date also. I guess
that when it gets close to the expiration date it just gets a new one.

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External Since: Aug 06, 2004 Posts: 13

Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:53:51 -0400 schrieb rjdriver:

> "Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie RemoveThis @verboten.net> wrote:

>> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
>> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
>> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
>> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
>> this works Wink

.

> A lot of grief over a nag screen that can be closed with a single mouse
> click.......Especially one that does nothing, and prevents nothing. The
> update goes on even if you ignore it. Drag it off the screen if it
> bothers you. Close your eyes for the few seconds it takes to update.
> Hardly a high price to pay for an excellent free application.

Well, it doesn't bother *me*, because I'm not using Avira Antivir. If I
was, I'd allow the popup or buy the product.

Gabriela