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Ray K

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:38 pm
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I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
detecting them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not
looking for comments on how good or bad it is.

Thanks,

Ray

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Ben Myers

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:10 pm
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"Ray K" <raykosXXX DeleteThis @optonline.net> wrote in message news:476e8f0e$0$9090$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
> detecting them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not
> looking for comments on how good or bad it is.

See http://www.f-secure.com/virus-info/eicar_test_file.shtml

Ben

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Ray K

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:55 pm
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Ben Myers wrote:
> "Ray K" <raykosXXX.TakeThisOut@optonline.net> wrote in message news:476e8f0e$0$9090$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
>> detecting them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not
>> looking for comments on how good or bad it is.
>
> See http://www.f-secure.com/virus-info/eicar_test_file.shtml
>
> Ben

Thanks, Ben. I tried downloading it and my program detected and deleted it.

BTW, I'm using iolo System Mechanic 7 Professional.

Ray
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:38 pm
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"Ray K" <raykosXXX.RemoveThis@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:476e8f0e$0$9090$607ed4bc@cv.net...
>I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in detecting
>them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not looking for
>comments on how good or bad it is.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray

Try a Porn site perhaps?geesh..RH710
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Manatee Memories

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:23 am
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Virus Guy

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 11:37 am
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Ray K wrote:

> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
> detecting them.

Here's a random selection:

http://rapidshare.com/files/78792390/video.exe.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/78793364/web.jpg.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/78793583/cancel_order.exe.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/78794055/osamebinladenphoto.jpg.zip.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/78794411/Zoeken.exe.html

Disable your AV software when downloading them, then tell your AV
program to scan them individually.
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Ray K

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:14 pm
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Virus Guy wrote:
> Ray K wrote:
>
>> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
>> detecting them.
>
> Here's a random selection:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/78792390/video.exe.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/78793364/web.jpg.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/78793583/cancel_order.exe.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/78794055/osamebinladenphoto.jpg.zip.html
> http://rapidshare.com/files/78794411/Zoeken.exe.html
>
> Disable your AV software when downloading them, then tell your AV
> program to scan them individually.

I downloaded the binaladenphoto file with the AV program active. It did
not detect a problem during download. But when it scanned the file
individually, it detected a problem and quarantined the file. This was
an eye-opening experience for me. Now I understand the need for full
system scans every so often.

Thanks,

Ray
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MoiMoi

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:56 pm
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In article <4770135a$0$13894$607ed4bc@cv.net>, raykosXXX.TakeThisOut@optonline.net
says...
> Virus Guy wrote:
> > Ray K wrote:
> >
> >> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
> >> detecting them.
> >
> > Here's a random selection:
> >
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/78792390/video.exe.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/78793364/web.jpg.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/78793583/cancel_order.exe.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/78794055/osamebinladenphoto.jpg.zip.html
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/78794411/Zoeken.exe.html
> >
> > Disable your AV software when downloading them, then tell your AV
> > program to scan them individually.
>
> I downloaded the binaladenphoto file with the AV program active. It did
> not detect a problem during download. But when it scanned the file
> individually, it detected a problem and quarantined the file. This was
> an eye-opening experience for me. Now I understand the need for full
> system scans every so often.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray

Whatever that file is, wouldn't your AV have prevented it from running
when you activated it?
So, yeah, twice a year, like I said Smile

MM
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Ray K

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 1:46 pm
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MoiMoi wrote:
> In article <4770135a$0$13894$607ed4bc@cv.net>, raykosXXX.DeleteThis@optonline.net
> says...
>> Virus Guy wrote:
>>> Ray K wrote:
>>>
>>>> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
>>>> detecting them.
>>> Here's a random selection:
>>>
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/78792390/video.exe.html
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/78793364/web.jpg.html
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/78793583/cancel_order.exe.html
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/78794055/osamebinladenphoto.jpg.zip.html
>>> http://rapidshare.com/files/78794411/Zoeken.exe.html
>>>
>>> Disable your AV software when downloading them, then tell your AV
>>> program to scan them individually.
>> I downloaded the binaladenphoto file with the AV program active. It did
>> not detect a problem during download. But when it scanned the file
>> individually, it detected a problem and quarantined the file. This was
>> an eye-opening experience for me. Now I understand the need for full
>> system scans every so often.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>
> Whatever that file is, wouldn't your AV have prevented it from running
> when you activated it?
> So, yeah, twice a year, like I said Smile
>
> MM
I don't know, and I'm not going to try.

Ray
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kurt wismer

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:34 pm
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Ray K wrote:
> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
> detecting them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not
> looking for comments on how good or bad it is.

please don't troll for malware here... it encourages the uncontrolled
distribution of malware and that enables people to spread it maliciously...

if you must test your scanner to make sure it's operating properly, use
the eicar standard anti-malware test file...
(http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm)

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
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kurt wismer

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:35 pm
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Virus Guy wrote:
> Ray K wrote:
>
>> I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
>> detecting them.
>
> Here's a random selection:
>
[snip malware urls]
>
> Disable your AV software when downloading them, then tell your AV
> program to scan them individually.

it's generally frowned upon to post working links to malware here...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:25 am
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kurt wismer wrote:

> it's generally frowned upon to post working links to malware here.

1) he was asking for it.

2) you have to perform several clicks and enter a captcha code before
the file is presented to you, so it's not likely to be downloaded by
accidently clicking on the link.
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4Q

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:22 pm
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kurt wismer wrote:
> Virus Guy wrote:
> > kurt wismer wrote:
> >
> >> it's generally frowned upon to post working links to malware here.
> >
> > 1) he was asking for it.
>
> check the archives, there is a long history of people asking for malware
> in this group... that doesn't mean it's ok to give it to them...
>

Yes Virus Guy! Consider yourself told
off by the NannyState Mind of Kurt.

You've been posting here long enough
to know that Kurt thinks he runs this
group!!! How dare you take it upon
yourself to try and go over Kurts
command and control structure. He
doesn't want anyone to know of the
dark knowledge, he alone is gatekeeper
of such secrets.

Next time think before you act, and if
in doubt consult higher authority as in
(Kurt Wismer, information gatekeeper)


4Q




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> > 2) you have to perform several clicks and enter a captcha code before
> > the file is presented to you, so it's not likely to be downloaded by
> > accidently clicking on the link.
>
> accidental downloading isn't really what this group's mores against
> malware sharing were meant to address... there is insufficient data to
> determine if the person can be trusted to not do something accidental or
> malicious with the malware once s/he's got it...
>
> don't share malware with people unless you *know* you can trust both
> their intentions and their competence... and don't share in public where
> any moron or miscreant who happens to be reading or searching can also
> get access...
>
> --
> "it's not the right time to be sober
> now the idiots have taken over
> spreading like a social cancer,
> is there an answer?"
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 1:39 pm
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kurt wismer wrote:
> Ray K wrote:
> > I want to d/l a couple just to see how well my AV program is in
> > detecting them. I'm not saying which program I'm using because I'm not
> > looking for comments on how good or bad it is.
>
> please don't troll for malware here...

It didn't sound like he was trolling.
He was making a request for a couple
of programs to test his AV program.

>it encourages the uncontrolled
> distribution of malware and that enables people to spread it maliciously...
>

The files will be spread maliciously
totally independantly of this group.
This group should be in a postion to
help people to gain knowledge in the
'so called' expertese of the group.
alt.comp. "virus". It's far more
appropriate someone asks in a place
like this rather an alt.party.animal
alt.fun-and-games, alt.bedtime.reading
etc.


> if you must test your scanner to make sure it's operating properly, use
> the eicar standard anti-malware test file...
> (http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm)
>

Yeah that's right keep a tight rein on
who and who should not progress beyond
AV 101 school, after all you are the
ACV gatekeeper aren't you?


4Q
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 3:45 pm
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Virus Guy wrote:
> kurt wismer wrote:
>
>> it's generally frowned upon to post working links to malware here.
>
> 1) he was asking for it.

check the archives, there is a long history of people asking for malware
in this group... that doesn't mean it's ok to give it to them...

> 2) you have to perform several clicks and enter a captcha code before
> the file is presented to you, so it's not likely to be downloaded by
> accidently clicking on the link.

accidental downloading isn't really what this group's mores against
malware sharing were meant to address... there is insufficient data to
determine if the person can be trusted to not do something accidental or
malicious with the malware once s/he's got it...

don't share malware with people unless you *know* you can trust both
their intentions and their competence... and don't share in public where
any moron or miscreant who happens to be reading or searching can also
get access...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"
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