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Lisa Simpson aka none.DeleteThis@none.com in alt.privacy.spyware,after much
thought,came up with this jewel:

> . . .create a bootable CD that includes AV, AM, AS, AA etc software?
*************************************************************

Lisa Simpson,

Bart!

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From: "What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel RemoveThis @nomail.afraid.org>

| Lisa Simpson aka none RemoveThis @none.com in alt.privacy.spyware,after much
| thought,came up with this jewel:
|
>> . . .create a bootable CD that includes AV, AM, AS, AA etc software?
| *************************************************************
|
| Lisa Simpson,
|
| Bart!
|
| max

You hit a Homer Max !

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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:58:03 GMT, dk.TakeThisOut@no.email.thankstospam.net (DK)
wrote:

>I don't know. I've used BartPE on systems with no HDD, on at
>least five different machines with HDD, some FAT32, some NTFS,
>and I have never had a problem, much less trashing the system
>as a result of using it.
>
>Care to elaborate?


He booted a win98 box (with a fat32 hard disk) from bartpe then ran
the xp chkdsk utility with a switch telling it to automatically fix
all errors. Apparently, bartpe failed to read the partition table
section of this hard disk's master boot record correctly and thought
it contained a single ntfs partition. Either that or bart somehow
incorrectly altered the partition table. Consequently, his fat32 hard
disk got trashed and bart got the blame.


Jim.
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> Warning. BartPE will write to your MBR, and possilby trash
> your system.

Err, what? My machine is still running fine after creating *two* CDroms
with different BartPE versions.


Gabriele Neukam

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> He booted a win98 box (with a fat32 hard disk) from bartpe then ran
> the xp chkdsk utility with a switch telling it to automatically fix
> all errors.

Uh oh, bad move. In such a case, i would have done a FDISK /mbr, which
might have fixed the thing. If not, there are still tools like the
Ranish Partition Manager, yet it will require some knowledge.

Still I wonder why the BartPE disk botched it. FAT32 is available for
NT versions, too, and shouldn't have been changed by an XP prog.


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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:50:49 +0100, Gabriele Neukam
<Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam RemoveThis @t-online.de> wrote:

>Uh oh, bad move. In such a case, i would have done a FDISK /mbr, which
>might have fixed the thing. If not, there are still tools like the
>Ranish Partition Manager, yet it will require some knowledge.
>

fdisk /mbr would only overwrite the "program" part of the master boot
record (if it somehow got corrupted). The partition table part would
be unaffected.

>Still I wonder why the BartPE disk botched it. FAT32 is available for
>NT versions, too, and shouldn't have been changed by an XP prog.
>

I wonder why too. I think the partition table probably got
changed/corrupted by some action not yet posted about and Bart is
probably the whipping boy, carrying the can for something else the OP
shouldn't have done.


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"DK" <dk RemoveThis @no.email.thankstospam.net> wrote in message news:> In article
<CzU1h.21364
>, "Russg" wrote:
>>
>>"What's in a Name?" <maxwachtel RemoveThis @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message news:
>>> Lisa Simpson aka none RemoveThis @none.com in alt.privacy.spyware,after much
>>> thought,came up with this jewel:
>>>
>>>> . . .create a bootable CD that includes AV, AM, AS, AA etc software?
>>> *************************************************************
>>>
>>> Lisa Simpson,
>>>
>>> Bart!
>>>
>>> max
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>>Warning. BartPE will write to your MBR, and possilby trash
>>your system. I suppose it may work if you only use it on the
>>system you create it on, but I wouldn't trust it even then.
>>If you must, then see if you can configure your BIOS to
>>block writes to the MBR.
>
> I don't know. I've used BartPE on systems with no HDD, on at
> least five different machines with HDD, some FAT32, some NTFS,
> and I have never had a problem, much less trashing the system
> as a result of using it.
>
> Care to elaborate?
I don't remember exactly how I created my BartPE
CD. I do recall it was from instructions and software either from the
author's site or an 'official'
site.
I booted BPE on my win98SE system. I went to
DOS prompt, and my directories were there, but
all my files were unaccessable. I quickly booted
to Win98SE and my files were all missing, the directories were there.
After much effort, I ended up fdisking the partition.
That didn't work, win98se fdisk said something like
'partition unlocked' and wouldn't delete the partition.
I used PowerMax to low level format the HD. Now
I could fdisk it and re-install win98SE from Dell CD.
I took the BPE CD and booted a win98SE system
that allowed 'virus prevention' of the MBR in the BIOS. The BPE disk tried
to write to my MBR.
It could be a bad BPE disk, but I'm sure it wasn't
an image I got somewhere and burnt it, it was an
origainal burn using the author's tools on my winXP
laptop.
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Far Canal wrote:
> A boot disc with AVP progs, recovery tools, password tools, etc?
> Like this
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiren.thanki/bootcd.html

FC - just tried to followup your suggestion, and in trying to find how to
download it (couldn't locate any download links on the site itself), came
across the following

http://www.morgud.com/reviews/software/The-911-Rescue-CD.asp

See the warning at the bottom. Have you used it yourself?
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 16:39:54 -0000, "JIP" <JIP.TakeThisOut@that.xx124.place.com> wrote:

>Far Canal wrote:
>> A boot disc with AVP progs, recovery tools, password tools, etc?
>> Like this
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hiren.thanki/bootcd.html
>
>FC - just tried to followup your suggestion, and in trying to find how to
>download it (couldn't locate any download links on the site itself), came
>across the following
>
>http://www.morgud.com/reviews/software/The-911-Rescue-CD.asp
>
>See the warning at the bottom. Have you used it yourself?
>

I've used The Ultimate Boot CD for Windows many times and recommend it.
Lots of good docs, too. UBCD uses Bart PE and provides add-ons for
managing a sick PC. You can also put your own software on the CD.

http://www.ubcd4win.com/
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"Russg" <russgilb RemoveThis @MUNGEsbcyahoo.net> wrote in message
snip snip snip
I reviewed my original posts here.
I said my computer would boot and my files
were missing after the BPE boot.
That's not what happened.
After the BPE boot, and I couldn't access
my files using BPE, I tried to re-boot win98SE.
It wouldn't boot.
Gave a 'There is no OS' message and quit. So
BPE had written a XP type record to the MBR.
I then booted from a Win98SE startup floppy.
I couldn't access the C: drive.
I suppose at that point I did a fdisk /mbr, but
I don't remember.
My points are:
BPE wrote to my MBR, trashing my hard disk.
I was able to get back to seeing files, probably
by an 'update' win98SE CD, but my long filenames
were gone.
It was a mess and I eventually had to low level
format the HD, re-install the aged win98SE from
OEM CD, then update win98SE and re-install
everything from backups.
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