Has my computer been hacked?

On Sat, 13 May 2006 16:51:02 -0400, <MARVINJCOHEN.RemoveThis@LYCOS.COM> wrote:

> 4. I use Eudora email on my parents computer. Eudora is not as safe as
> Outlook Express. Recently I opened an email that just locked the
> computer for two minutes. I tried clicking on it a half hour later,
> and it did the same thing. I wonder if it might have executed some
> malicious code.

Eudora is not going to autoexecute anything like Outlook Express does.

In addition to David Lipman's advice, I'd also consider hardware
problems. Start with scandisk or chkdsk, as appropriate. Run
a ram test, and ensure the system temperatures are ok.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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MARVINJCOHEN DeleteThis @LYCOS.COM wrote:

> 4. I use Eudora email on my parents computer. Eudora is not as safe as
> Outlook Express.

Har! I love a good joke!

> Recently I opened an email that just locked the computer for two
> minutes. I tried clicking on it a half hour later, and it did the
> same thing. I wonder if it might have executed some malicious code.

Ok, is this an HTML email? Does it have an attachment? If so, what kind?

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But you should do the clean it by yourself if you think it is any
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NOD32 free and easy for you to get rid of the ugly man.

I used to get inflected with the virus and melicious script, after I
have installed the NOD32 it is free of it.

But you should do the clean it by yourself if you think it is any
malicious script around.

googled to download NOD32 is free
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David,
You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
without much of a rep. I think thats risky. Then you say I should run
MULTI_AV.EXE on my computer. Are you going to give me the source code
to this program so that I can read the whole thing to make sure its
safe, and then let me compile it? You say to disable my firewall (or
use WGET.exe) while I run MULTI_AV.EXE. Suppose I'm a lazy user and
just disable my firewall. Would this be safe?
The internet is a strange place - you could be a very helpful,
knowledgable individual, or you could be a hacker. I would have no way
of knowing. In fact, you can be 3 people at once in this forum. (I am
two myself.)
To answer some of the questions in this forum -
1. the email that locked my computer did not have an attachment.
2. The reason I think Eudora is less safe than Outlook Express is that
I posted my question to a Eudora forum, and was told that Eudora was
not safe. Also, in Outlook Express you can set all messages to be read
as plain text, which prevents mischief. In fact, this is suggested by
Microsoft Windows Help on my XP computer.
3. When I clicked on the HP bar I'm not sure where the "malicious
script" message came from - but I don't think it was NAV. I could
repeat the experiment right now, but for obvious reasons I don't want
to do that.
-- Marvin
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> David,
> You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
> without much of a rep.

I can assure you that Eset has a very good rep and a mature, reliable
product.
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On 14 May 2006 06:00:49 -0700, MARVINJCOHEN.TakeThisOut@LYCOS.COM wrote:

> David,

> The internet is a strange place - you could be a very helpful,
> knowledgable individual, or you could be a hacker. I would have no way
> of knowing. In fact, you can be 3 people at once in this forum. (I am
> two myself.)
If you were seriously worried about all of this, why are you here? A few
minutes of googleing would show you who David is.
I'll restate my position on your original question.
Take it to someone who is competent, and pay them to do it for you. So far,
you don't look like you're up for the job.
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'Marvin' wrote, in part:
| You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
| without much of a rep. I think thats risky. Then you say I should run
| MULTI_AV.EXE on my computer. Are you going to give me the source code
| to this program so that I can read the whole thing to make sure its
| safe, and then let me compile it? You say to disable my firewall (or
| use WGET.exe) while I run MULTI_AV.EXE. Suppose I'm a lazy user and
| just disable my firewall. Would this be safe?
| The internet is a strange place - you could be a very helpful,
| knowledgable individual, or you could be a hacker. I would have no way
| of knowing. In fact, you can be 3 people at once in this forum. (I am
| two myself.)
_____

If you spend a little time with this newsgroup,
microsoft.public.security.virus, and alt.comp.virus you should be able to
get a sense of who is a responsible, knowledgeable contributor and who
isn't.Usenet newsgroups have a sort of 'peer review' (at least for well
populated groups.) Any wrong or dangerous information is usually called
down quickly and corrected. If you have doubts about the posts you read,
then do some research. Google archives every post to Usenet newsgroups; you
can search by author, subject, key words, dates, newsgroup.

Your hypotheticals are just wheel-spinning; either take the system to a
reputable local computer repair shop, or learn how to judge the worth of the
answers posted in Usenet newsgroups. Too much second guessing can lead to
paralysis.


Also, it is a really bad idea to use your real email address identity when
posting to Usenet newsgroups as you seem to have done. Spammers have
programs that automatically harvest email addresses from Usenet newsgroups.
Even worse, some Internet worms running on infected systems harvest email
addresses from Usenet newsgroup, then use these harvested addresses as 'To:'
fields AND as faked 'From:' addresses for sending more infected email. Use
a domain name guaranteed to be invalid so as to not bring spam and infected
email down on an innocent email box. 'not.disclosed@example.com' is reserved
and cannot be a valid email address.

Phil Weldon

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|
| David,
| You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
| without much of a rep. I think thats risky. Then you say I should run
| MULTI_AV.EXE on my computer. Are you going to give me the source code
| to this program so that I can read the whole thing to make sure its
| safe, and then let me compile it? You say to disable my firewall (or
| use WGET.exe) while I run MULTI_AV.EXE. Suppose I'm a lazy user and
| just disable my firewall. Would this be safe?
| The internet is a strange place - you could be a very helpful,
| knowledgable individual, or you could be a hacker. I would have no way
| of knowing. In fact, you can be 3 people at once in this forum. (I am
| two myself.)
| To answer some of the questions in this forum -
| 1. the email that locked my computer did not have an attachment.
| 2. The reason I think Eudora is less safe than Outlook Express is that
| I posted my question to a Eudora forum, and was told that Eudora was
| not safe. Also, in Outlook Express you can set all messages to be read
| as plain text, which prevents mischief. In fact, this is suggested by
| Microsoft Windows Help on my XP computer.
| 3. When I clicked on the HP bar I'm not sure where the "malicious
| script" message came from - but I don't think it was NAV. I could
| repeat the experiment right now, but for obvious reasons I don't want
| to do that.
| -- Marvin
|
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In article <1147611649.320234.92780.DeleteThis@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
MARVINJCOHEN.DeleteThis@LYCOS.COM says...
>
> David,
> You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
> without much of a rep. I think thats risky.

Norton is well-known for causing various problems.
Kaspersky and Eset (NOD32) aren't small, they're just not as big as Symantec (Norton) -
and they have very good reputations among antivirus professionals.



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David,
You say that your code is open source. Fine. Then you should
distribute the open source, and have your users make the source into an
EXE. Otherwise, you are telling people on this forum to download a
program, run it, and take it on trust that it corresponds to the open
source.
I did download your program and run it - and then second thoughts
struck me afterwards.
You say I can tell from google that you are not a hacker. I looked on
google and groups.google, and I see you have web pages, and I see you
have asked questions and answered questions. But a knowledgeable
hacker could do this too. I'm not trying to give you a hard time here,
but caution is called for.
You ask why I'm still using Eudora. The answer is - I'm not - not any
more.
You say you doubt my assertion that I clicked on the HP toolbar and got
a "malicious script" warning . I can understand your saying that,
since I don't see why (or how) a hacker would do this. But see - now
you are saying you don't trust assertions on this forum. Which is
reasonable, since you don't know me.
Likewise, I would say to users of this forum:
1. Don't download and run software from strangers on this forum. If
you wouldn't open an unknown attachment in your email, why would you
run a program from a stranger
2. Be careful of following links on this forum as well.
-- Marvin
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<MARVINJCOHEN.DeleteThis@LYCOS.COM> wrote in message news:1147897753.544620.181680@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> David,
> You say that your code is open source.

In the case of interpretive script, both the source code and the "program"
being distributed are the exact same data.
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MARVINJCOHEN RemoveThis @LYCOS.COM wrote:
> David,
> You suggest dumping Norton software and going with little companies
> without much of a rep. I think thats risky. Then you say I should run
> MULTI_AV.EXE on my computer. Are you going to give me the source code
> to this program so that I can read the whole thing

Hilarious, considering the rest of the post.
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