mcafee antivirus definition file updates

> I've just arranged to "downgrade"(?) from the VS8 I installed a few weeks
ago back to VS7, as I
> don't like the insecure updating with VS8.

What don't you like / consider to be insecure about the updating in VS8...

I don't know a lot about VS8, but am interested to see what you consider to
be an insecure update method.

..\/.artin
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Firstly, I don't trust anything which connects to the internet without me
knowing about it (and thank goodness I use XP instead of Win98. I
understand that for some users, VS8 tries to dial home every 5 minutes to
autoupdate under Win98, and it can't be turned off). And the damn thing
interrupts what I'm doing a few seconds after I connect, to do what it
wants. It's not an application you can stop with Task Manager, either. So
effectively, something you have no control of (unless you choose to manually
update) is connecting to the internet and downloading to your computer.
Call me paranoid, but the first thing I switched off after installing XP was
Microsoft's autoupdate, and here's my AV program doing the same thing.

So you go to manual update, but you can only connect through McAfee's
website. That wouldn't be so bad (although IE6 isn't exactly known for its
security...), but you can't download the files without having ActiveX and
cookies activated! It's a big step backwards from VS7 in my view. I've now
reinstalled VS7 and am much happier - I update when I want to and don't have
to go through IE.

--
Jeff
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"Wrangler" <Wrangle.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> > I've just arranged to "downgrade"(?) from the VS8 I installed a few
weeks
> ago back to VS7, as I
> > don't like the insecure updating with VS8.
>
> What don't you like / consider to be insecure about the updating in VS8...
>
> I don't know a lot about VS8, but am interested to see what you consider
to
> be an insecure update method.
>
> .\/.artin
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: mcafee antivirus definition file updates 

Fair enough. Thanks for the perspective.

I know some people from McAfee lurk, so your thoughts may find their way
into an FMR (Feature Modification Request) for VS retail.

If anything, you may like to drop them a line with your thoughts.

..\/.artin


"Jeff Layman" <jmlayman.DeleteThis@xxxtcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Y6edndrZ0YCrrc_dRVn-hA@tcp.co.uk...
> Firstly, I don't trust anything which connects to the internet without me
> knowing about it (and thank goodness I use XP instead of Win98. I
> understand that for some users, VS8 tries to dial home every 5 minutes to
> autoupdate under Win98, and it can't be turned off). And the damn thing
> interrupts what I'm doing a few seconds after I connect, to do what it
> wants. It's not an application you can stop with Task Manager, either.
So
> effectively, something you have no control of (unless you choose to
manually
> update) is connecting to the internet and downloading to your computer.
> Call me paranoid, but the first thing I switched off after installing XP
was
> Microsoft's autoupdate, and here's my AV program doing the same thing.
>
> So you go to manual update, but you can only connect through McAfee's
> website. That wouldn't be so bad (although IE6 isn't exactly known for
its
> security...), but you can't download the files without having ActiveX and
> cookies activated! It's a big step backwards from VS7 in my view. I've
now
> reinstalled VS7 and am much happier - I update when I want to and don't
have
> to go through IE.
>
> --
> Jeff
> (Remove xxx from email address to reply)
>
> "Wrangler" <Wrangle.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:4051cf11$0$6545$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > > I've just arranged to "downgrade"(?) from the VS8 I installed a few
> weeks
> > ago back to VS7, as I
> > > don't like the insecure updating with VS8.
> >
> > What don't you like / consider to be insecure about the updating in
VS8...
> >
> > I don't know a lot about VS8, but am interested to see what you consider
> to
> > be an insecure update method.
> >
> > .\/.artin
> >
> >
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: mcafee antivirus definition file updates 

I received a lot of help from McAfee forum - which is run by volunteers! And
I'm pleased to publicly note here my appreciation for their help. I (and
others) have already let the forum know what I like/don't like, and it is
rumoured (!) that McAfee may actually look at the comments now and again.

--
Jeff
(Remove xxx from email address to reply)

"Wrangler" <Wrangle.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:40523247$0$6550$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Fair enough. Thanks for the perspective.
>
> I know some people from McAfee lurk, so your thoughts may find their way
> into an FMR (Feature Modification Request) for VS retail.
>
> If anything, you may like to drop them a line with your thoughts.
>
> .\/.artin
>
>
> "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman.RemoveThis@xxxtcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Y6edndrZ0YCrrc_dRVn-hA@tcp.co.uk...
> > Firstly, I don't trust anything which connects to the internet without
me
> > knowing about it (and thank goodness I use XP instead of Win98. I
> > understand that for some users, VS8 tries to dial home every 5 minutes
to
> > autoupdate under Win98, and it can't be turned off). And the damn thing
> > interrupts what I'm doing a few seconds after I connect, to do what it
> > wants. It's not an application you can stop with Task Manager, either.
> So
> > effectively, something you have no control of (unless you choose to
> manually
> > update) is connecting to the internet and downloading to your computer.
> > Call me paranoid, but the first thing I switched off after installing XP
> was
> > Microsoft's autoupdate, and here's my AV program doing the same thing.
> >
> > So you go to manual update, but you can only connect through McAfee's
> > website. That wouldn't be so bad (although IE6 isn't exactly known for
> its
> > security...), but you can't download the files without having ActiveX
and
> > cookies activated! It's a big step backwards from VS7 in my view. I've
> now
> > reinstalled VS7 and am much happier - I update when I want to and don't
> have
> > to go through IE.
> >
> > --
> > Jeff
> > (Remove xxx from email address to reply)
> >
> > "Wrangler" <Wrangle.RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:4051cf11$0$6545$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > > > I've just arranged to "downgrade"(?) from the VS8 I installed a few
> > weeks
> > > ago back to VS7, as I
> > > > don't like the insecure updating with VS8.
> > >
> > > What don't you like / consider to be insecure about the updating in
> VS8...
> > >
> > > I don't know a lot about VS8, but am interested to see what you
consider
> > to
> > > be an insecure update method.
> > >
> > > .\/.artin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Thats my rumour Jeff. Developers are said to have looked at our posts
there Hopefully some of the mud stuck.

As far as I understand the Dial out issue should be looked into/addressed
better in version 8.1 (yes the magical version that fixes all the bugs) That
is out within 4 weeks though why the wait beats the hell outof me.We will
have to wait till then to see fixes
PK



"Jeff Layman" <jmlayman DeleteThis @xxxtcp.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jdGdnbed3oSJec_d4p2dnA@tcp.co.uk...
> I received a lot of help from McAfee forum - which is run by volunteers!
And
> I'm pleased to publicly note here my appreciation for their help. I (and
> others) have already let the forum know what I like/don't like, and it is
> rumoured (!) that McAfee may actually look at the comments now and again.
>
> --
> Jeff
> (Remove xxx from email address to reply)
>
> "Wrangler" <Wrangle DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:40523247$0$6550$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > Fair enough. Thanks for the perspective.
> >
> > I know some people from McAfee lurk, so your thoughts may find their way
> > into an FMR (Feature Modification Request) for VS retail.
> >
> > If anything, you may like to drop them a line with your thoughts.
> >
> > .\/.artin
> >
> >
> > "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman DeleteThis @xxxtcp.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:Y6edndrZ0YCrrc_dRVn-hA@tcp.co.uk...
> > > Firstly, I don't trust anything which connects to the internet without
> me
> > > knowing about it (and thank goodness I use XP instead of Win98. I
> > > understand that for some users, VS8 tries to dial home every 5 minutes
> to
> > > autoupdate under Win98, and it can't be turned off). And the damn
thing
> > > interrupts what I'm doing a few seconds after I connect, to do what it
> > > wants. It's not an application you can stop with Task Manager,
either.
> > So
> > > effectively, something you have no control of (unless you choose to
> > manually
> > > update) is connecting to the internet and downloading to your
computer.
> > > Call me paranoid, but the first thing I switched off after installing
XP
> > was
> > > Microsoft's autoupdate, and here's my AV program doing the same thing.
> > >
> > > So you go to manual update, but you can only connect through McAfee's
> > > website. That wouldn't be so bad (although IE6 isn't exactly known
for
> > its
> > > security...), but you can't download the files without having ActiveX
> and
> > > cookies activated! It's a big step backwards from VS7 in my view.
I've
> > now
> > > reinstalled VS7 and am much happier - I update when I want to and
don't
> > have
> > > to go through IE.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeff
> > > (Remove xxx from email address to reply)
> > >
> > > "Wrangler" <Wrangle DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4051cf11$0$6545$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> > > > > I've just arranged to "downgrade"(?) from the VS8 I installed a
few
> > > weeks
> > > > ago back to VS7, as I
> > > > > don't like the insecure updating with VS8.
> > > >
> > > > What don't you like / consider to be insecure about the updating in
> > VS8...
> > > >
> > > > I don't know a lot about VS8, but am interested to see what you
> consider
> > > to
> > > > be an insecure update method.
> > > >
> > > > .\/.artin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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