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Gary

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:24 am
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I haven't been able to connect to grisoft to get updates for last two days.
Should I be suspicious, or can others confirm a problem?
Thanks.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:34 pm
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Ive had the same problem however A big update this PM was available

if you need to an on-line AV check go to
trend micro scan - home scan


"Gary" <glabowitz.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> I haven't been able to connect to grisoft to get updates for last two
days.
> Should I be suspicious, or can others confirm a problem?
> Thanks.
> --
> Gary
>
>

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Hugh Garse

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 6:14 pm
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Hats of to AVG managed to let all netsky varients in unchecked. Bless em,
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:04 pm
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"Hugh Garse" <sameoldnonexistantip.DeleteThis@customerofplusnet.com.not> wrote in message news:UoK1c.17394$Y%6.1583668@wards.force9.net...
> Hats of to AVG managed to let all netsky varients in unchecked. Bless em,

It is not the antivirus program's job to stop malware, it is your
job. Antivirus software is designed to aid you in that endeavor.
You really shouldn't blame any AV for letting things through.

A short lag time between the unleashing of malware and the
addition of support for identifying said malware is essential
for those users that don't know what they are doing.
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Hugh Garse

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:55 am
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"FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
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" It is not the antivirus program's job to stop malware, it is your
> job. Antivirus software is designed to aid you in that endeavor."
"You really shouldn't blame any AV for letting things through"

LOL.... In that case I will uninstall all my AV products as it's my job. My
point was that as ever AVG was behind the pack (you get what you pay for)
and folk trying to update could not due to the sheer weight of traffic.

AVG From grisoft is a little like anti-ice on a 747, 'Gives you a false
sense of security'. The particular mutation here was able to spoof it's from
address and caught many people out. One copy I saw even had 'Certified virus
free by AVG on it"
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Big Will

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 6:55 am
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Hugh Garse wrote:
> "FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
> news:104fgv76jorc198@corp.supernews.com...
> " It is not the antivirus program's job to stop malware, it is your
>
>>job. Antivirus software is designed to aid you in that endeavor."
>
> "You really shouldn't blame any AV for letting things through"
>
> LOL.... In that case I will uninstall all my AV products as it's my job. My
> point was that as ever AVG was behind the pack (you get what you pay for)
> and folk trying to update could not due to the sheer weight of traffic.
>
> AVG From grisoft is a little like anti-ice on a 747, 'Gives you a false
> sense of security'. The particular mutation here was able to spoof it's from
> address and caught many people out. One copy I saw even had 'Certified virus
> free by AVG on it"
>
>
>
Of course, we all know that no virus scanner can certify that an
attachment is virus free, just that it didn't find any viruses w/
current defs and didn't suspect anything with huerestics. That's about it.

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If it don't work, hit it
If it still don't work, kick it
If it works after hitting it or kicking it, then it doesn't matter if
that helped, what's important is it worked.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:43 am
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The voice of "Hugh Garse" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

> Hats of to AVG managed to let all netsky varients in unchecked.
> Bless em,


Go into "Complete Test Settings" and ether add "DAT" to the additional
extensions to test, or check "Test all extensions"...

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FromTheRafters

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2004 7:17 pm
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"Hugh Garse" <sameoldnonexistantip.TakeThisOut@customerofplusnet.com.not> wrote in message news:DyV1c.17563$Y%6.1615993@wards.force9.net...
>
> "FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
> news:104fgv76jorc198@corp.supernews.com...
> " It is not the antivirus program's job to stop malware, it is your
> > job. Antivirus software is designed to aid you in that endeavor."
> "You really shouldn't blame any AV for letting things through"
>
> LOL.... In that case I will uninstall all my AV products as it's my job.

Sorry, it's just that I am always hearing people say that they used to
use one AV until it 'let something through' and so they switched to
something else - and so on - and so on...

The fact is that every AV will 'let something through' and it is usually
not their fault. The user has to put the AV program in its proper task
which is not supposed to be 'save me from myself' but rather 'help me
to try to protect my computer from malware'. Most of the 'let through'
stuff is from the so-called *day zero effect* which wouldn't really be
a problem at all if users would take the proper precautions about their
downloaded programs.

> My point was that as ever AVG was behind the pack (you get what you pay for)
> and folk trying to update could not due to the sheer weight of traffic.

Everyone in a rush to get *protection* from themselves. It really
doesn't matter much how quickly a definition for a new malware
is implemented as long as it is implemented prior to being exposed
to actively running malware. You can't really do much to speed up
the process of creating the def files, but you *can* refrain from the
running of hostile code until a sufficient time has passed for the AV
vendor to catch up with the new stuff.

....as for the autoexecuting stuff, there is usually a good amount of
time prior to malware exploiting the vulnerability, in which to take
measures to patch or workaround the vulnerability.

> AVG From grisoft is a little like anti-ice on a 747, 'Gives you a false
> sense of security'.

They all do - if you let them. The role of AV software is greatly
misunderstood by the public, and the vendors have allowed the
public to take themselves out of the loop as far as computer
security is concerned - when in actuality they should be the most
important aspect of it.

Auto-protect
Auto-update
Auto-wipe up the mess

It's really just lazy, clueless, and dangerous computing practices.

> The particular mutation here was able to spoof it's from
> address and caught many people out.

Nothing new about that feature, really. Netsky has probably
a great many variants waiting in the wings to be unleashed to
basically *attack with force at weakness* against the current
AV paradigm (specifically the "day zero effect" weakness of
most AV programs).

> One copy I saw even had 'Certified virus
> free by AVG on it"

Yeah, that certification (advertisement) is a joke.
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