"Hugh Garse" <sameoldnonexistantip.TakeThisOut@customerofplusnet.com.not> wrote in message news:DyV1c.17563$Y%6.1615993@wards.force9.net...
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> "FromTheRafters" <!0000@nomad.fake> wrote in message
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> " It is not the antivirus program's job to stop malware, it is your
> > job. Antivirus software is designed to aid you in that endeavor."
> "You really shouldn't blame any AV for letting things through"
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> LOL.... In that case I will uninstall all my AV products as it's my job.
Sorry, it's just that I am always hearing people say that they used to
use one AV until it 'let something through' and so they switched to
something else - and so on - and so on...
The fact is that every AV will 'let something through' and it is usually
not their fault. The user has to put the AV program in its proper task
which is not supposed to be 'save me from myself' but rather 'help me
to try to protect my computer from malware'. Most of the 'let through'
stuff is from the so-called *day zero effect* which wouldn't really be
a problem at all if users would take the proper precautions about their
downloaded programs.
> My point was that as ever AVG was behind the pack (you get what you pay for)
> and folk trying to update could not due to the sheer weight of traffic.
Everyone in a rush to get *protection* from themselves. It really
doesn't matter much how quickly a definition for a new malware
is implemented as long as it is implemented prior to being exposed
to actively running malware. You can't really do much to speed up
the process of creating the def files, but you *can* refrain from the
running of hostile code until a sufficient time has passed for the AV
vendor to catch up with the new stuff.
....as for the autoexecuting stuff, there is usually a good amount of
time prior to malware exploiting the vulnerability, in which to take
measures to patch or workaround the vulnerability.
> AVG From grisoft is a little like anti-ice on a 747, 'Gives you a false
> sense of security'.
They all do - if you let them. The role of AV software is greatly
misunderstood by the public, and the vendors have allowed the
public to take themselves out of the loop as far as computer
security is concerned - when in actuality they should be the most
important aspect of it.
Auto-protect
Auto-update
Auto-wipe up the mess
It's really just lazy, clueless, and dangerous computing practices.
> The particular mutation here was able to spoof it's from
> address and caught many people out.
Nothing new about that feature, really. Netsky has probably
a great many variants waiting in the wings to be unleashed to
basically *attack with force at weakness* against the current
AV paradigm (specifically the "day zero effect" weakness of
most AV programs).
> One copy I saw even had 'Certified virus
> free by AVG on it"
Yeah, that certification (advertisement) is a joke.
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