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David H. Lipman wrote:
> kurt wismer wrote:
>> David H. Lipman wrote:
>>
>>> Can you please point me to that data Kurt...
>>
>> can you please format your posts properly so that context can be
>> preserved? i trimmed absolutely nothing and the above two lines are all
>> i got because you put quoted material after your sig delimiter (only
>> your sig should appear after your sig delimiter)...
[snip]
>
> From what I see, the "format" problem is an interpretation problem of
> Mozilla Thunderbird. That's what your using - Right ?

i'm using the mozilla suite, so it's mozilla mail rather than
thunderbird.... and the format problem is the interpretation by
standards compliant readers that sig delimiters mark the end of the
message and the beginning of the sig... and since people don't
generally reply to sigs, everything after the delimiter can be omitted
from the quotation..

> I just tried it in this reply.
>
> Dave

and it looks perfect this time round...

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David H. Lipman wrote:
> No, it isn't you are using Mozilla but it does interpret it the same way. I'll see if
> removing "--" in the sig helps...
>
> Dave

Yep, it sure does !

Mozilla based News Client's interprets "--"

Interesting but I'm not switching from OE to Thunderbird -- yet.

I will no longer have a Signature that includes "--"

Dave
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David H. Lipman wrote:

> I will no longer have a Signature that includes "--"

A proper sig delimiter is not "--" but "-- ". Two dashes followed by a
space and a newline. Swipe your mouse over yours, then over mine.
Note the space.

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After a few tests I see the OE auto-generates the "--" and not me and not "-- "

Dave




"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous DeleteThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
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| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| > I will no longer have a Signature that includes "--"
|
| A proper sig delimiter is not "--" but "-- ". Two dashes followed by a
| space and a newline. Swipe your mouse over yours, then over mine.
| Note the space.
|
| --
| -bts
| -This space intentionally left blank.
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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous RemoveThis @example.invalid> wrote in message
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| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
|| From what I see, the "format" problem is an interpretation problem
|| of Mozilla Thunderbird. That's what your using - Right ?
|
| Actually, practically all newsreaders (except OE) will automatically
| trim off any content below the sig delimiter "-- ", getting it right.
| You place your sig above the replied content.
|
|
|| I just tried it in this reply.
|
| I'm going to move my sig above this last line or yours. Open this post
| in Thunderbird, or any other than OE, and try to reply to it. Notice
| how this text is sort of .. gray.
|
| OE gets it wrong unless you use QuoteFix and specify to place your sig
| at the bottom ... <g>


Well alright then... I have just capitulated.

Call me a Catfish becuase I have just become a bottom feeder !

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"kurt wismer" <kurtw.DeleteThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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| David H. Lipman wrote:
|| kurt wismer wrote:
||| David H. Lipman wrote:
|||
|||| Can you please point me to that data Kurt...
|||
||| can you please format your posts properly so that context can be
||| preserved? i trimmed absolutely nothing and the above two lines are all
||| i got because you put quoted material after your sig delimiter (only
||| your sig should appear after your sig delimiter)...
| [snip]
||
|| From what I see, the "format" problem is an interpretation problem of
|| Mozilla Thunderbird. That's what your using - Right ?
|
| i'm using the mozilla suite, so it's mozilla mail rather than
| thunderbird.... and the format problem is the interpretation by
| standards compliant readers that sig delimiters mark the end of the
| message and the beginning of the sig... and since people don't
| generally reply to sigs, everything after the delimiter can be omitted
| from the quotation..
|
|| I just tried it in this reply.
||
|| Dave
|
| and it looks perfect this time round...

I will state this. * * I will change for YOU Kurt ! * *

I am not ready to switch News Clients so I'm sticking with OE however, I am now going to use
Qutoe-Fix and reply at the bottom. While I have been asked *many* times to Bottom post and
said no. I will change my habits for those people, who are now increasing in numbers, who
use Mozilla based News Clients.

However, I am not changing my opinion on yEnc encoded attachments

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David H. Lipman wrote:
> "kurt wismer" <kurtw.RemoveThis@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:pUuTd.24920$uO.710210@news20.bellglobal.com
> | David H. Lipman wrote:
> || kurt wismer wrote:
> ||| David H. Lipman wrote:
> |||
<snip>

> I will state this. * * I will change for YOU Kurt ! * *
>
> I am not ready to switch News Clients so I'm sticking with OE however, I am now going to use
> Qutoe-Fix and reply at the bottom. While I have been asked *many* times to Bottom post and
> said no. I will change my habits for those people, who are now increasing in numbers, who
> use Mozilla based News Clients.

One more (well, two) favor, Dave... could you change your word wrap to
around 72 to 76 characters, and switch to the standard quoting
character of ">" instead of the vertical bar? We would appreciate
that. Thanks.

> However, I am not changing my opinion on yEnc encoded attachments

That's fine by me. <g>

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"Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <a.nony.mous.TakeThisOut@example.invalid> wrote in message
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|
| One more (well, two) favor, Dave... could you change your word wrap to
| around 72 to 76 characters, and switch to the standard quoting
| character of ">" instead of the vertical bar? We would appreciate
| that. Thanks.
|
|| However, I am not changing my opinion on yEnc encoded attachments
|
| That's fine by me. <g>

Now that going to f**k'n far


Hey I'm a mix of anarchist and non-conformist.

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kurt wismer - 25.02.2005 00:04 :

> David H. Lipman wrote:

[...]

> can you please format your posts properly so that context can be
> preserved? i trimmed absolutely nothing and the above two lines are all
> i got because you put quoted material after your sig delimiter (only
> your sig should appear after your sig delimiter)...

this is a very "special" usenet-/posting-behavior of David. I posted
with him politely about that a few weeks ago. He defended his behavior
and was not willing to accept any argument against his behavior

BTW: David often could shorten the quoting part(s) because of unnessary
wasting bandwidth and practize bottom posting instead of top posting to
make threads/postings more readable, IMHO. Nevertheless otherwise David
seems to be a pleasent "regular" for this newsgroup more than often
helping people having problems.

(Please excuse my bad English. It's my 4th foreign language only).

Nice weekend,

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Peter Seiler wrote:
> kurt wismer - 25.02.2005 00:04 :
>
>
>>David H. Lipman wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>can you please format your posts properly so that context can be
>>preserved? i trimmed absolutely nothing and the above two lines are all
>>i got because you put quoted material after your sig delimiter (only
>>your sig should appear after your sig delimiter)...
>
>
> this is a very "special" usenet-/posting-behavior of David. I posted
> with him politely about that a few weeks ago. He defended his behavior
> and was not willing to accept any argument against his behavior

he just used flowed format of e-mail body

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed



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"Peter Seiler" <psprivate.DeleteThis@despammed.com> wrote in message
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| kurt wismer - 25.02.2005 00:04 :
|
|| David H. Lipman wrote:
|
| [...]
|
|| can you please format your posts properly so that context can be
|| preserved? i trimmed absolutely nothing and the above two lines are all
|| i got because you put quoted material after your sig delimiter (only
|| your sig should appear after your sig delimiter)...
|
| this is a very "special" usenet-/posting-behavior of David. I posted
| with him politely about that a few weeks ago. He defended his behavior
| and was not willing to accept any argument against his behavior
|
| BTW: David often could shorten the quoting part(s) because of unnessary
| wasting bandwidth and practize bottom posting instead of top posting to
| make threads/postings more readable, IMHO. Nevertheless otherwise David
| seems to be a pleasent "regular" for this newsgroup more than often
| helping people having problems.
|
| (Please excuse my bad English. It's my 4th foreign language only).
|
| Nice weekend,
|
| --
| by(e) PS
|
| spam will be killed

I ignored you because you are so *bloody annoying* !

I changed *only* because of the way Mozilla products interpret posts for reply messages.

I am willing to change for someone like Kurt who actullay posts substance in the AV News
Groups.


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David H. Lipman - 26.02.2005 22:15 :
>
> I ignored you because you are so *bloody annoying* !
>
> I changed *only* because of the way Mozilla products interpret posts for reply messages.
>
> I am willing to change for someone like Kurt who actullay posts substance in the AV News
> Groups.

sorry, I did *NOT* want to annoy you but only recommended you a usual
way of posting that probably make your postings a bit easier to handle.
That my recommendation probably have not been too bad show the finally
results now based on Kurt's same/similar recommendations. IMHO,
primarely arguments should count! Accepting recommendation not from me
but from Kurt IMHO is not very logically.

Let's live in peace, David.

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"Peter Seiler" <psprivate DeleteThis @despammed.com> wrote in message
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| David H. Lipman - 26.02.2005 22:15 :
||
|| I ignored you because you are so *bloody annoying* !
||
|| I changed *only* because of the way Mozilla products interpret posts for reply
|| messages.
||
|| I am willing to change for someone like Kurt who actullay posts substance in the AV
|| News Groups.
|
| sorry, I did *NOT* want to annoy you but only recommended you a usual
| way of posting that probably make your postings a bit easier to handle.
| That my recommendation probably have not been too bad show the finally
| results now based on Kurt's same/similar recommendations. IMHO,
| primarely arguments should count! Accepting recommendation not from me
| but from Kurt IMHO is not very logically.
|
| Let's live in peace, David.
|
| --
| by(e) PS
|
| spam will be killed

Logic is a pretty flower that smells bad !

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