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Bill

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Since: Feb 24, 2010
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:16 am
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FromTheRafters

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:10 am
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"Virus Guy" wrote in message

> "David H. Lipman" wrote:
>
>> All the software in the world will NOT protect you if you do bot
>> follow Safe Hex practices.
>
> Safe Hex was a quaint concept 5 - 10 years ago. It's irrelevant
> today.
>
> How does one practice safe hex against DNS poisoning or server-farm
> hijacking?

One doesn't, what one *does* do is to try to keep their system up to
date so that exploits being served from the sites they are being
directed (or redirected) to aren't effective.

Safe hex isn't just about reading the URL and determining from that
whether or not to visit the site, although that *is* a part of it.

Years ago I tried to tell folks that there are *no* safe filetypes (all
filetypes should be scanned), now I guess one should stress that there
are *no* dangerous websites (only dangerous client software).

Your statement regarding "safe hex" only indicates your misunderstanding
of the concept. It was never the case that (for instance) not opening
e-mail attachments from people that you don't know, will keep you safe -
only that it will keep you safer. You could still get malware from
infected friends, but that does not make the rule irrelevant.

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RayLopez99

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:58 pm
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On Feb 24, 2:10 pm, "FromTheRafters"
wrote:

>
> Your statement regarding "safe hex" only indicates your misunderstanding
> of the concept. It was never the case that (for instance) not opening
> e-mail attachments from people that you don't know, will keep you safe -
> only that it will keep you safer. You could still get malware from
> infected friends, but that does not make the rule irrelevant.

I would also argue that surfing free porn sites, like I do (amazing
what you can get without paying for it, and least visually) is also
something that is normal, and probably falls outside of "safe hex",
which if memory serves is a series of rules such as 'always visit only
sites approved by some clearinghouse', which almost certainly would
not include porn sites. So how to protect yourself when performing
these normal activities? As a newbie, I don't have the answers,
except maybe (if you believe the hype) switching to dedicated machines
running Linux when you want to surf porn.

RL
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David H. Lipman

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:40 am
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From: "RayLopez99"

| On Feb 24, 2:10 pm, "FromTheRafters"
| wrote:


>> Your statement regarding "safe hex" only indicates your misunderstanding
>> of the concept. It was never the case that (for instance) not opening
>> e-mail attachments from people that you don't know, will keep you safe -
>> only that it will keep you safer. You could still get malware from
>> infected friends, but that does not make the rule irrelevant.

| I would also argue that surfing free porn sites, like I do (amazing
| what you can get without paying for it, and least visually) is also
| something that is normal, and probably falls outside of "safe hex",
| which if memory serves is a series of rules such as 'always visit only
| sites approved by some clearinghouse', which almost certainly would
| not include porn sites. So how to protect yourself when performing
| these normal activities? As a newbie, I don't have the answers,
| except maybe (if you believe the hype) switching to dedicated machines
| running Linux when you want to surf porn.

| RL


Surfing for p0rn can be problematic.

You have to find and use free p0rn sites that are known to be safe and NEVER fall ofor any
sh!t that you have to download a viewer or CODEC to viewe a video.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
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