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Brian

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:23 pm
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Hi all,

I was just going to let this slide and be a lesson to myself, but having
just talked with a person from Panda Software about the issue I had (he
called me, BTW,) I figured I would let people know that a major flaw
exists in the installation of this product.

I have been researching various antivirus solutions to hopefully replace
the existing antivirus package that my company uses. When installing
Panda's trial, it *uninstalled* my current antivirus solution. Don't
misinterpret this. It didn't *disable* the antivirus program, it removed
it from my hard drive. The only warning I received was a DOS (denial of
service) that the installation program generated so that Windows XP would
be forced to reboot.

The follow-up call that I received just minutes ago was to see what my
impression of Panda was. No apologies were given that the installer
uninstalled my previous antivirus program. In fact, the follow-up caller
wasn't even surprised that this had happened and stated that two antivirus
programs running on the same PC would most likely "hose your system."
It didn't matter that I had disabled the antivirus' service through the
control panel prior to installing Panda.

Well, my response to him is this news post. Hopefully anyone thinking of
installing this product will think twice before attempting to do so. It
wasn't my desire to bash Panda, but no apologies or anything??? That's
just bad business.

Kaspersky and Trend Micro, OTOH, seem to be quite nice packages. They
don't uninstall your existing antivirus software programs either. Smile

Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.
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Brian

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russg

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2004 10:23 pm
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Panda titanium is my first commercial av. I've used fprot.
It installed ok, telling me to uninstall any other av before
it installed. It found klez.i as a file with a *.zip.src.src or something
that had been sitting on the desktop for ages and was never double clicked.
(My brother's computer, I thought he wanted the file, thought it was a
source file of some type.)
I made the rescue disks. The rescue disks didn't work, so I got on Panda
site (the titanium was a CD I bought on internet) and downloaded titanium
2004, 18 megs, but I had just put up a cable modem. The titan2004.exe
(something like that) said that titanium had to be uninstalled before
installing 2004. Did that.
And made the rescue disks, that this time seemed to work.
Then the nightmares. Windows ME. Crashed, many 'caused a page fault,
couldn't find a file, blue screens of death, difficulty even booting in safe
mode. I uninstalled (safe mode) titan2004 (I almost called it tit2004, but
didn't want anyone getting excited.)
And I uninstalled Zone Alarm, now the computer runs ok (I had turned off
system restore months ago when removing Klez.e I think it was.)
I re-installed Zone Alarm, still ran ok. I then re-installed titanium.
That's where it is now, everything seems to be ok, and scans are clear.
Summary. Stay away from Titanium 2004 downloaded from Pandasoftware.com
(Oh, yes, I registered the titanium before I could download 2004.)
Regards Russg
<Brian> wrote in message news:107bk7dar8u9n6e@corp.supernews.com...
> Hi all,
>
> I was just going to let this slide and be a lesson to myself, but having
> just talked with a person from Panda Software about the issue I had (he
> called me, BTW,) I figured I would let people know that a major flaw
> exists in the installation of this product.
>
> I have been researching various antivirus solutions to hopefully replace
> the existing antivirus package that my company uses. When installing
> Panda's trial, it *uninstalled* my current antivirus solution. Don't
> misinterpret this. It didn't *disable* the antivirus program, it removed
> it from my hard drive. The only warning I received was a DOS (denial of
> service) that the installation program generated so that Windows XP would
> be forced to reboot.
>
> The follow-up call that I received just minutes ago was to see what my
> impression of Panda was. No apologies were given that the installer
> uninstalled my previous antivirus program. In fact, the follow-up caller
> wasn't even surprised that this had happened and stated that two antivirus
> programs running on the same PC would most likely "hose your system."
> It didn't matter that I had disabled the antivirus' service through the
> control panel prior to installing Panda.
>
> Well, my response to him is this news post. Hopefully anyone thinking of
> installing this product will think twice before attempting to do so. It
> wasn't my desire to bash Panda, but no apologies or anything??? That's
> just bad business.
>
> Kaspersky and Trend Micro, OTOH, seem to be quite nice packages. They
> don't uninstall your existing antivirus software programs either. Smile
>
> Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.
> --
> Brian
>
>

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optikl

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:13 am
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Brian wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.

From the description of the events, I highly doubt this is some kind of
bug. I can't imagine it's not intentional.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 12:20 am
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.

> From the description of the events, I highly doubt this is some kind of
> bug. I can't imagine it's not intentional.

Well, I was trying to give them the benefit of doubt, but I do agree with
you. Seems to be a little *too* intentional.

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Big Will

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:57 am
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Brian wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.
>
>
>> From the description of the events, I highly doubt this is some kind of
>>bug. I can't imagine it's not intentional.
>
>
> Well, I was trying to give them the benefit of doubt, but I do agree with
> you. Seems to be a little *too* intentional.
>
How odd, last year when I tried Panda (titanium trial version) it asked
me if I wanted to unisntall my current AV, and recommended that I do.
BTW, I didn't uninstall it (NIS 2003 at the time), but did disable it.
Even still, Panda messed up by system (not by uninstalling my AV, but by
conflicting with it somehow, despite that it was disabled). I
eventually ended up booting in safemode to remove it. Doesn't matter
much now, as I've reformatted since, but it was kind of stressful at the
time. Now I use Sophos and AVG on-demand free edition.

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William

If it don't work, hit it.
If it still don't work, kick it.
If it works after that, than it doesn't matter if that helped, what's
important is it works.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:31 pm
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On Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:23:41 -0000, Brian wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I was just going to let this slide and be a lesson to myself, but having
>just talked with a person from Panda Software about the issue I had (he
>called me, BTW,) I figured I would let people know that a major flaw
>exists in the installation of this product.
>
>I have been researching various antivirus solutions to hopefully replace
>the existing antivirus package that my company uses. When installing
>Panda's trial, it *uninstalled* my current antivirus solution. Don't
>misinterpret this. It didn't *disable* the antivirus program, it removed
>it from my hard drive. The only warning I received was a DOS (denial of
>service) that the installation program generated so that Windows XP would
>be forced to reboot.
>
>The follow-up call that I received just minutes ago was to see what my
>impression of Panda was. No apologies were given that the installer
>uninstalled my previous antivirus program. In fact, the follow-up caller
>wasn't even surprised that this had happened and stated that two antivirus
>programs running on the same PC would most likely "hose your system."
>It didn't matter that I had disabled the antivirus' service through the
>control panel prior to installing Panda.
>
>Well, my response to him is this news post. Hopefully anyone thinking of
>installing this product will think twice before attempting to do so. It
>wasn't my desire to bash Panda, but no apologies or anything??? That's
>just bad business.
>
>Kaspersky and Trend Micro, OTOH, seem to be quite nice packages. They
>don't uninstall your existing antivirus software programs either. Smile
>
>Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.

I'm using Panda for years now.. very happy with it. They have a nice
local helpdesk... respone on the double... Panda is not very expensive
but very resources friendly.. perfect for low budget users... nice
firewall and now also other tools to keep your system healthy...

If they have also the ability to remove - in example Norton - without
having to worry about that once you decided that you wish to replace
your former avirus... that's a perfect service... but Panda should AT
LEAST offer the choice while installing their soft. Let's hope that
it's a bug,... not a commercial trap... because I would like to keep a
good feeling about my favorite avirus scanner.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:35 pm
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:38:37 -0400, "russg" <russg DeleteThis @MUNGEen.com> wrote:

>Panda titanium is my first commercial av. I've used fprot.
>It installed ok, telling me to uninstall any other av before
>it installed. It found klez.i as a file with a *.zip.src.src or something
>that had been sitting on the desktop for ages and was never double clicked.
>(My brother's computer, I thought he wanted the file, thought it was a
>source file of some type.)
>I made the rescue disks. The rescue disks didn't work, so I got on Panda
>site (the titanium was a CD I bought on internet) and downloaded titanium
>2004, 18 megs, but I had just put up a cable modem. The titan2004.exe
>(something like that) said that titanium had to be uninstalled before
>installing 2004. Did that.
>And made the rescue disks, that this time seemed to work.
>Then the nightmares. Windows ME. Crashed, many 'caused a page fault,
>couldn't find a file, blue screens of death, difficulty even booting in safe
>mode. I uninstalled (safe mode) titan2004 (I almost called it tit2004, but
>didn't want anyone getting excited.)
>And I uninstalled Zone Alarm, now the computer runs ok (I had turned off
>system restore months ago when removing Klez.e I think it was.)
>I re-installed Zone Alarm, still ran ok. I then re-installed titanium.
>That's where it is now, everything seems to be ok, and scans are clear.
>Summary. Stay away from Titanium 2004 downloaded from Pandasoftware.com
>(Oh, yes, I registered the titanium before I could download 2004.)
>Regards Russg
><Brian> wrote in message news:107bk7dar8u9n6e@corp.supernews.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I was just going to let this slide and be a lesson to myself, but having
>> just talked with a person from Panda Software about the issue I had (he
>> called me, BTW,) I figured I would let people know that a major flaw
>> exists in the installation of this product.
>>
>> I have been researching various antivirus solutions to hopefully replace
>> the existing antivirus package that my company uses. When installing
>> Panda's trial, it *uninstalled* my current antivirus solution. Don't
>> misinterpret this. It didn't *disable* the antivirus program, it removed
>> it from my hard drive. The only warning I received was a DOS (denial of
>> service) that the installation program generated so that Windows XP would
>> be forced to reboot.
>>
>> The follow-up call that I received just minutes ago was to see what my
>> impression of Panda was. No apologies were given that the installer
>> uninstalled my previous antivirus program. In fact, the follow-up caller
>> wasn't even surprised that this had happened and stated that two antivirus
>> programs running on the same PC would most likely "hose your system."
>> It didn't matter that I had disabled the antivirus' service through the
>> control panel prior to installing Panda.
>>
>> Well, my response to him is this news post. Hopefully anyone thinking of
>> installing this product will think twice before attempting to do so. It
>> wasn't my desire to bash Panda, but no apologies or anything??? That's
>> just bad business.
>>
>> Kaspersky and Trend Micro, OTOH, seem to be quite nice packages. They
>> don't uninstall your existing antivirus software programs either. Smile
>>
>> Hopefully, Panda software developers will fix this bug.
>> --
>> Brian
>>
>>
>

Panda's viruskiller (now Titanium) and ZoneAlarm are known to give
problems,... was so years ago... I'm surprized it still is.
Not a matter of pure incompatibility though.. it's a matter of order
of installation between the two programs.... Had to call the helpdesk
in those days... and they explained it...
Anyway... Use panda Platinum (with firewall),... works perfect...

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