Microsoft Security Essentials - Ars Technica review

badgolferman wrote:
> acav wrote:
>
>> http://xrl.us/MSEreview
>
> Well, they like it.
>
> I wonder what anti-malware Microsoft Corporation itself uses in Redmond.

Microsoft personnel have been said to recommend MBAM.

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On 30 Sep 2009 14:56:34 -0000, acav wrote:

>http://xrl.us/MSEreview

Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/19/micros...-securi

"Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million downloads
in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep going up:
After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million. Also, the
company tells me that Microsoft Security Essentials has achieved ICSA
Labs Anti-Virus Certification on Vista Ultimate 32-bit and Vista
Ultimate 64-bit in the Desktop/Server AV Detection & Cleaning Testing
criteria. This certification builds on its October certification from
West Coast Labs."
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Paul Jones wrote in


> On 30 Sep 2009 14:56:34 -0000, acav wrote:
>
>>http://xrl.us/MSEreview
>
> Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
> http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/19/microso
> ft-security-essentials-update.aspx
>
> "Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
> anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million
> downloads in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep
> going up: After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million.
> Also, the company tells me that Microsoft Security Essentials has
> achieved ICSA Labs Anti-Virus Certification on Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> and Vista Ultimate 64-bit in the Desktop/Server AV Detection &
> Cleaning Testing criteria. This certification builds on its October
> certification from West Coast Labs."

I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't have
gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of the machines
I put it on.
MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core machine
with a fast processor and plenty of memory.

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"Lil' Abner" wrote in


> Paul Jones wrote in
>
>
>> On 30 Sep 2009 14:56:34 -0000, acav wrote:
>>
>>>http://xrl.us/MSEreview
>>
>> Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
>> http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/19/micros
>> o ft-security-essentials-update.aspx
>>
>> "Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
>> anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million
>> downloads in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep
>> going up: After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million.
>> Also, the company tells me that Microsoft Security Essentials has
>> achieved ICSA Labs Anti-Virus Certification on Vista Ultimate 32-bit
>> and Vista Ultimate 64-bit in the Desktop/Server AV Detection &
>> Cleaning Testing criteria. This certification builds on its October
>> certification from West Coast Labs."
>
> I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't
> have gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of
> the machines I put it on.
> MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core
> machine with a fast processor and plenty of memory.
>

Oh.. I've gotta save this for my quotes. Tolerable on a quad.. I love it.



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Lil' Abner wrote:
> Paul Jones wrote in
>
>
>> On 30 Sep 2009 14:56:34 -0000, acav wrote:
>>
>>> http://xrl.us/MSEreview
>> Paul Thurrott writes on 19/10/2009 at:
>> http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2009/10/19/microso
>> ft-security-essentials-update.aspx
>>
>> "Microsoft previously reported that its new Security Essentials
>> anti-malware solution (see my review) had garnered 1.5 million
>> downloads in its first week of availability. Well, the numbers keep
>> going up: After two weeks, the download total stood at 2.6 million.
>> Also, the company tells me that Microsoft Security Essentials has
>> achieved ICSA Labs Anti-Virus Certification on Vista Ultimate 32-bit
>> and Vista Ultimate 64-bit in the Desktop/Server AV Detection &
>> Cleaning Testing criteria. This certification builds on its October
>> certification from West Coast Labs."
>
> I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't have
> gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of the machines
> I put it on.
> MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core machine
> with a fast processor and plenty of memory.
>

I join in your assessment.

Bogs everything down...besides, with AVG..MBAM...ThreatFire and more,
this is overkill..
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:10:47 -0500, responder
wrote:

>Lil' Abner wrote:
>> I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I shouldn't have
>> gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it on most of the machines
>> I put it on.
>> MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core machine
>> with a fast processor and plenty of memory.
>>
>
>I join in your assessment.
>
>Bogs everything down...besides, with AVG..MBAM...ThreatFire and more,
>this is overkill..

Shame it does not work for the two of you.

IMO it is better than all of the above as it uses far less system
resources. Avast and MBAM are still both on my system but real-time
protection has been disabled for the two of them and my PC has never
been better.
Not sure why you think it would be "overkill".

I have installed it on several systems with different hardware
configurations now (over 30 PCs in 5 different locations) and all work
flawlessly.
These PCs were all built and the OS installed by myself so I know there
is no other software installed that could cause issues with MSE.
Looking at various newsgroups where there have been issues reported with
MsMpEng.exe, the cause has always been found to be some other process
causing the issue.

This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.
The only thing that will cause its uptake to be slowed down is the
bundling of inferior products on new PCs. Something done by system
manufacturers to increase profits.
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Paul Jones wrote in


> On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 19:10:47 -0500, responder
> wrote:
>
>>Lil' Abner wrote:
>>> I'll take credit for about a dozen of those downloads. But I
>>> shouldn't have gotten so carried away. I've already uninstalled it
>>> on most of the machines I put it on.
>>> MsMpEng.exe eating up all the resources. Tolerable on a quad core
>>> machine with a fast processor and plenty of memory.
>>>
>>
>>I join in your assessment.
>>
>>Bogs everything down...besides, with AVG..MBAM...ThreatFire and more,
>>this is overkill..
>
> Shame it does not work for the two of you.
>
> IMO it is better than all of the above as it uses far less system
> resources. Avast and MBAM are still both on my system but real-time
> protection has been disabled for the two of them and my PC has never
> been better.
> Not sure why you think it would be "overkill".
>
> I have installed it on several systems with different hardware
> configurations now (over 30 PCs in 5 different locations) and all work
> flawlessly.
> These PCs were all built and the OS installed by myself so I know
> there is no other software installed that could cause issues with MSE.
> Looking at various newsgroups where there have been issues reported
> with MsMpEng.exe, the cause has always been found to be some other
> process causing the issue.

What process(es)? Every machine I've put it on I've made sure all
instances of any other antivirus or antispyware applications have been
uninstalled. I too have been to a lot of the forums and read a lot of the
discussions. I would really like to see it work. If they get it fixed or
at least make it more clear how to avoid the "bogging down" effect, I
will be happy to start installing it again.

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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:18 -0400, Paul Jones wrote:

> This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.

I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: "David W. Hodgins"

| On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:18 -0400, Paul Jones wrote:

>> This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.

| I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.

| Regards, Dave Hodgins

MSAV -- OEM of CPAV bought by Norton.

Passing fad for Win3.1x at best.

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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:39:11 -0700, Beckett
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:04:14 -0500, "Lil' Abner"
>wrote:
>
>
>>What process(es)? Every machine I've put it on I've made sure all
>>instances of any other antivirus or antispyware applications have been
>>uninstalled. I too have been to a lot of the forums and read a lot of the
>>discussions. I would really like to see it work. If they get it fixed or
>>at least make it more clear how to avoid the "bogging down" effect, I
>>will be happy to start installing it again.
>
>I wouldn't listen to him, I beleive he is the same person who attacked
>my computer skills credibility when I complained about the same issue
>with MSSE a little while back. I said it was ok on my multi-core PC
>but on my single core PC it was killing performance and was viciously
>attacked for it.

What? Please provide evidence of this vicious attack.
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On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:39:37 +0000, Paul Jones
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:39:11 -0700, Beckett
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:04:14 -0500, "Lil' Abner"
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What process(es)? Every machine I've put it on I've made sure all
>>>instances of any other antivirus or antispyware applications have been
>>>uninstalled. I too have been to a lot of the forums and read a lot of the
>>>discussions. I would really like to see it work. If they get it fixed or
>>>at least make it more clear how to avoid the "bogging down" effect, I
>>>will be happy to start installing it again.
>>
>>I wouldn't listen to him, I beleive he is the same person who attacked
>>my computer skills credibility when I complained about the same issue
>>with MSSE a little while back. I said it was ok on my multi-core PC
>>but on my single core PC it was killing performance and was viciously
>>attacked for it.
>
>What? Please provide evidence of this vicious attack.

Do you like to change names?
Are you Antonio López de Santa Anna?

If yes, you were the one who was rude and obnoxious.
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"David W. Hodgins" wrote in


> On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:52:18 -0400, Paul Jones
> wrote:
>
>> This will become the standard anti-malware software before too long.
>
> I expect many people will wait to see if it lasts longer than MSAV.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

*hahahaha*....


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