Free AntiVir vs Free BitDefender

What's in a Name? wrote:
> On 8/30/2007 3:31 AM, n o s p a m p l e a s e after much thought,came up
> with this jewel:
>> At http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=30082.0 , I find AntiVir and
>> BitDefender are rated higher than Avast and AVG.
>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.
>> How is the update function of Free BitDefender?
> about the same as all others.
>> Is Free BitDefender better placed as compared to Free Avast?
> Bit Defender(free version) is an on-demand scanner.
>> Thanx/NSP
> max
Jeanette wrote:

I use antivir on a couple of boxes here and it updates ok just that
their update is slow and there is a pop up.
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Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:

> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:

>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>commercial popup in Antivir]

> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
> haven't tried it myself.

Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
this works .

Gabriela
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"Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie.DeleteThis@verboten.net> wrote in message
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> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>
>>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>>commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
> this works .
>
> Gabriela

A lot of grief over a nag screen that can be closed with a single mouse
click.......Especially one that does nothing, and prevents nothing. The
update goes on even if you ignore it. Drag it off the screen if it
bothers you. Close your eyes for the few seconds it takes to update.
Hardly a high price to pay for an excellent free application.


Bob
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Gabriela Salvisberg wrote:
> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>
>>> [delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>> commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to try if
> this works .
>
> Gabriela

I have AntiVir on an XP Pro box and disallow avnotify.exe with the
security policy editor to prevent the nag screen from opening. I'm not
sure if it's possible with a software firewall.
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"Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie DeleteThis @verboten.net> wrote in message
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> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>
>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this
>> jewel:
>
>>>[delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>>commercial popup in Antivir]
>
>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it
>> runs? I
>> haven't tried it myself.
>
> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe
> and
> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm
> no
> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to
> try if
> this works .


Accessing the net is not what the avnotify.exe window is about. It is
nagware to get you to buy their commercialware. You need to use an
IPS (intrusion protection system), like System Safety Monitor or
ProcessGuard, to prevent avnotify.exe from loading in the first place.

Don't what the point would be to use the free version, anyway. The
current downloads available will expire after 3 months, go into "demo"
mode for another month, and then you don't get updates after the 4th
month. So you get a 3-month trial although Avira doesn't tell you
that. Do a download of their latest version into a VM, like in VMWare
Server or Virtual PC, don't do an update, move the clock forward 4.5
months, reboot, and then try to do an update. You'll get an error in
the log saying that you don't have a valid license which results in
not getting an update. Good AV if you buy it. Free version
self-destructs.
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"What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u.DeleteThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.

Re: Eliminating the 'nag-screen'.
Has anybody tried this?

1- rename file avnotify.exe to avnotify
or
2- delete avnotify.exe and avnotify.dll from the antivir program files
folder
or
3- use Eraser to wipe out files C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition
Classic\avnotify.dll
and C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avnotify.exe
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On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
> "What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u.DeleteThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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>
>>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
>> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.
>
> Re: Eliminating the 'nag-screen'.
> Has anybody tried this?
>
> 1- rename file avnotify.exe to avnotify
> or
> 2- delete avnotify.exe and avnotify.dll from the antivir program files
> folder
> or
> 3- use Eraser to wipe out files C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition
> Classic\avnotify.dll
> and C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avnotify.exe
>
>
Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs?
I haven't tried it myself.
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"What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u.DeleteThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> I haven't tried it myself.

Same here. (I'm still on AOL AVS-Kaspersky).
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On 8/31/2007 2:49 AM, Vanguard after much thought,came up with this jewel:
> "Gabriela Salvisberg" <salvie RemoveThis @verboten.net> wrote in message
> news:5jp8juFmo3oU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Am Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:15:35 -0500 schrieb What's in a Name?:
>>
>>> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>>
>>>> [delete or rename avnotify.exe and .dll to prevent the update
>>>> commercial popup in Antivir]
>>
>>> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs? I
>>> haven't tried it myself.
>>
>> Yes, I think that they're rebuilt. But if someone has some "desktop
>> firewall" software, wouldn't it be possible to prevent avnotify.exe and
>> the DLL from accessing the net, so Antivir can't load the ads? I'm no
>> Antivir user (have KAV on my Windows boxes), so someone else has to
>> try if
>> this works .
>
>
> Accessing the net is not what the avnotify.exe window is about. It is
> nagware to get you to buy their commercialware. You need to use an IPS
> (intrusion protection system), like System Safety Monitor or
> ProcessGuard, to prevent avnotify.exe from loading in the first place.
>
> Don't what the point would be to use the free version, anyway. The
> current downloads available will expire after 3 months, go into "demo"
> mode for another month, and then you don't get updates after the 4th
> month. So you get a 3-month trial although Avira doesn't tell you
> that. Do a download of their latest version into a VM, like in VMWare
> Server or Virtual PC, don't do an update, move the clock forward 4.5
> months, reboot, and then try to do an update. You'll get an error in
> the log saying that you don't have a valid license which results in not
> getting an update. Good AV if you buy it. Free version self-destructs.

I don't know about all that self-destruction Mr Flint, but here are your
instructions if you choose to accept them.

Quote from the AntiVir forums.....

"you can download a new keyfile from here:

http://dl1.avgate.net/down/windows/hbedv.key

and copy it to the installation folder of AntiVir (usually it's
C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic). You may need to
overwrite the existing hbedv.key file. Then restart your computer.

From this moment you should be able to update AntiVir. The key is valid
for 3 months, but it will be automatically renewed through updates."

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On 8/31/2007 8:28 AM, What's in a Name? after much thought,came up with
this jewel:

Mr Flint,
err, Phelps (wrong film)
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"What's in a Name?" wrote in message news:fb91jt$s2e$1@aioe.org...
>
> Vanguard wrote:
>>
>> Accessing the net is not what the avnotify.exe window is about. It
>> is nagware to get you to buy their commercialware. You need to use
>> an IPS (intrusion protection system), like System Safety Monitor or
>> ProcessGuard, to prevent avnotify.exe from loading in the first
>> place.
>>
>> Don't what the point would be to use the free version, anyway. The
>> current downloads available will expire after 3 months, go into
>> "demo" mode for another month, and then you don't get updates after
>> the 4th month. So you get a 3-month trial although Avira doesn't
>> tell you that. Do a download of their latest version into a VM,
>> like in VMWare Server or Virtual PC, don't do an update, move the
>> clock forward 4.5 months, reboot, and then try to do an update.
>> You'll get an error in the log saying that you don't have a valid
>> license which results in not getting an update. Good AV if you buy
>> it. Free version self-destructs.
>
> I don't know about all that self-destruction Mr Flint, but here are
> your instructions if you choose to accept them.
>
> Quote from the AntiVir forums.....
>
> "you can download a new keyfile from here:
>
> http://dl1.avgate.net/down/windows/hbedv.key

Did that. The file download link is on the same page as the product
download link. Didn't help. Product still expired after 3 months
(into demo mode and then refused sig updates after 4 months). See
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qtwto (Google Groups copy of my prior 2
posts on testing the expiration). In the 2nd post, 2nd step should've
said, "Download new hbdev.key file and installed it."

Even if it had worked to extend the license, this is worse than
nagware which AntiVir became after Avira got their hands on it. Not
only are users inflicted with popup "buy us" nag windows but they need
to periodically go grab another license key file? And do so again
after the next 3 months? And again, and so on?

So, yes, I did chose to accept the instructions. Didn't work for me
to extend the license, though. I installed the product Aug 20 but the
expiration remained the end of November with or without the supposedly
newer hbdev.key file.

It has good coverage, maybe the highest, for its scan modes. I'd only
recommend it as a 3-month trial and keeping it only by buying it to
get past its nuisances.
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"What's in a Name?" wrote in message news:fb95pb$a4l$1@aioe.org...
>
> Mr Flint,
> err, Phelps (wrong film)


Damn. I preferred Mr. Flint since he got lots of beautiful women and
actually did something in those movies (campy but action nonetheless).
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"What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u.DeleteThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> On 8/30/2007 6:01 PM, Kayman after much thought,came up with this jewel:
>> "What's in a Name?" <maxpro4u.DeleteThis@nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
>> news:fb6dn6$1i4$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>>>> I am told there are problems with Free AntiVir update.
>>> The only "problem" is a nag screen that comes up during an update.
>>
>> Re: Eliminating the 'nag-screen'.
>> Has anybody tried this?
>>
>> 1- rename file avnotify.exe to avnotify
>> or
>> 2- delete avnotify.exe and avnotify.dll from the antivir program files
>> folder
>> or
>> 3- use Eraser to wipe out files C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition
>> Classic\avnotify.dll
>> and C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avnotify.exe
>>
>>
> Doesn't the updater just rebuild avnotify.exe/.dll every time it runs?

Yes, your are right, the Sig update process will redownload the two files,
but, schedule Eraser to wipe out the files before sig update.
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