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Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205.RemoveThis@wilf45728.com> wrote:

> Cor wrote:
> > http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
> yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
> which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.

Questions:
How do you know this is Kaspersky?
Would you use this product over NOD32?
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badgolferman wrote:
> Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205 DeleteThis @wilf45728.com> wrote:
>
>>Cor wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>>
>>yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
>>which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.
>
> Questions:
> How do you know this is Kaspersky?
> Would you use this product over NOD32?


1) AOL Active Virus Shield
(http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=19414)

2) Depends. Are you using AOL? Both are good AV solutions. I would
probably use a _free_ version of KAV _or_ NOD32, before I would pay
for the other one, if you know what I mean.

The AOL Active Virus Shield is a stripped down version of KAV 6. Same
engine and definitions, but not the full customizability of KAV 6. And
I am not sure that it contains all of the modules --- email AV, Web
AV, PDM, etc.

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badgolferman wrote:
> Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205 DeleteThis @wilf45728.com> wrote:
>
>> Cor wrote:
>>> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>> yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
>> which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.
>
> Questions:
> How do you know this is Kaspersky?
> Would you use this product over NOD32?
1. I can see from the screen shot on the web site as I use Kaspersky
myself. Also, there was a discussion about this very product in the
Kaspersky Labs forum only yesterday.
2. I think KAV (actually, I use KIS, which is KAV plus firewall) is
really good but cannot compare it with NOD32 as I've never used that
product. I can say that the support you get in the Kaspersky forum is
really good, though and was part of the reason I went for KIS.

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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:59:53 -0400, Ron Lopshire <notron RemoveThis @ovbl.org>
wrote:

>badgolferman wrote:
>> Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205 RemoveThis @wilf45728.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Cor wrote:
>>>
>>>>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>>>
>>>yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
>>>which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.
>>
>> Questions:
>> How do you know this is Kaspersky?
>> Would you use this product over NOD32?
>
>
>1) AOL Active Virus Shield
> (http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?showtopic=19414)
>
>2) Depends. Are you using AOL? Both are good AV solutions. I would
>probably use a _free_ version of KAV _or_ NOD32, before I would pay
>for the other one, if you know what I mean.
>
>The AOL Active Virus Shield is a stripped down version of KAV 6. Same
>engine and definitions, but not the full customizability of KAV 6. And
>I am not sure that it contains all of the modules --- email AV, Web
>AV, PDM, etc.

I just took a look at it without "activating" it (I'm not interested
in getting their spam). It doesn't include the new v6 PDM module
or a web module. It just includes basic file and email scan modules.
Without activation, neither the updater nor the realtime/background
scanning functions are available, but they seem to be available via
activation. It has the same look and feel of a "regular" KAV 6.

Looks to me like something that could be recommended for emergency
use (tell them to be sure to activate and update) as well as a top
notch free alternative ... much better than other free av
alternatives. What's nice for emergency use is the limited scans
feature of memory, Windows files and the registry. That scan
goes very quickly and IMO is a very valuable "quick scan" feature
which likely finds active malware right off the bat.

Art
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From: "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman DeleteThis @gmail.com>

| Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205 DeleteThis @wilf45728.com> wrote:
|
>> Cor wrote:
>>> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>> yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
>> which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.
|
| Questions:
| How do you know this is Kaspersky?
| Would you use this product over NOD32?

This was aksed about recently. I looked it up and yes... it uses a Kaspersky engine.

However, you must agree to be spammed and get Pop-Up advertisments !

AO-Hell ! { LOL }

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From: "Art" <null RemoveThis @zilch.com>


|
| I just took a look at it without "activating" it (I'm not interested
| in getting their spam). It doesn't include the new v6 PDM module
| or a web module. It just includes basic file and email scan modules.
| Without activation, neither the updater nor the realtime/background
| scanning functions are available, but they seem to be available via
| activation. It has the same look and feel of a "regular" KAV 6.
|
| Looks to me like something that could be recommended for emergency
| use (tell them to be sure to activate and update) as well as a top
| notch free alternative ... much better than other free av
| alternatives. What's nice for emergency use is the limited scans
| feature of memory, Windows files and the registry. That scan
| goes very quickly and IMO is a very valuable "quick scan" feature
| which likely finds active malware right off the bat.
|
| Art

See my reply to "badFgolfer".

BTW: Did 'ya get my email ?

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David H. Lipman, 8/11/2006,5:55:56 PM, wrote:

> From: "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman DeleteThis @gmail.com>
>
> | Wilf, 8/11/2006, 9:50:46 AM, <44DC8B36.80205 DeleteThis @wilf45728.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Cor wrote:
> >>> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
> >> yes, it's a cut-down version of Kaspersky Anti-Virus (KAV) 6. In
> >> which case, it should be good, even if much reduced in scope.
> >
> > Questions:
> > How do you know this is Kaspersky?
> > Would you use this product over NOD32?
>
> This was aksed about recently. I looked it up and yes... it uses a
> Kaspersky engine.
>
> However, you must agree to be spammed and get Pop-Up advertisments !
>
> AO-Hell ! { LOL }

Uh, forget it then. An anti-virus product that spawns pop-ups and spam
is not doing its job properly.
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:57:07 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>See my reply to "badFgolfer".

Where?

>BTW: Did 'ya get my email ?

There was one a day or two back, but not recently. Why do you
als?

Art
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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:55:56 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:


>| Questions:
>| How do you know this is Kaspersky?
>| Would you use this product over NOD32?
>
>This was aksed about recently. I looked it up and yes... it uses a Kaspersky engine.
>
>However, you must agree to be spammed and get Pop-Up advertisments !
>
>AO-Hell ! { LOL }

In spite of my own reservations, I changed my mind and decided to give
the product a fair shake. So I activated it. You don't have to agree
to the Taskbar thing during installation, which I instinctively did
not do. Later, someone on alt.comp.freeware mentioned that the
Taskbar is where the devil lies ... it allegedly causes pop ups and
other undesirable activities.

I'm not having any problems with it so far. I'm in the process of
trying to determine whether or not it contains spyware. But that
will require packet inspection sw and it might well prove to be
quite difficult. KAV 6 rules your machine down at the lowest levels
including the monitoring of (at least most) all internet traffic.

Also, some people have complained about incompatibility with
Sygate fw, but I'm not experiencing any problems along those
lines.

I'll report any problems I find here in this thread.

Art
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Art wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:55:56 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>
>> | Questions:
>> | How do you know this is Kaspersky?
>> | Would you use this product over NOD32?
>>
>> This was aksed about recently. I looked it up and yes... it uses a Kaspersky engine.
>>
>> However, you must agree to be spammed and get Pop-Up advertisments !
>>
>> AO-Hell ! { LOL }
>
> In spite of my own reservations, I changed my mind and decided to give
> the product a fair shake. So I activated it. You don't have to agree
> to the Taskbar thing during installation, which I instinctively did
> not do. Later, someone on alt.comp.freeware mentioned that the
> Taskbar is where the devil lies ... it allegedly causes pop ups and
> other undesirable activities.
>
> I'm not having any problems with it so far. I'm in the process of
> trying to determine whether or not it contains spyware. But that
> will require packet inspection sw and it might well prove to be
> quite difficult. KAV 6 rules your machine down at the lowest levels
> including the monitoring of (at least most) all internet traffic.
>
> Also, some people have complained about incompatibility with
> Sygate fw, but I'm not experiencing any problems along those
> lines.
>
> I'll report any problems I find here in this thread.
>
> Art
> http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Art,

I look forward to the report also. Take a look at the following
information. I've not read the EULA, so I don't know what it contains.
If the information in this article is accurate, there's more going on
than meets the eye.

<Quote>

While AOL doesn't ask for money, Active Virus Shield users have to agree
to let AOL and its partners deliver ads to them. "As a condition for
your use of the software, you agree to receive promotions and periodic
e-mail messages from us and our affiliates," according to the fine print
in the license and user agreement of the software.

Active Virus Shield collects a host of information that may be used for
marketing purposes, starting with the e-mail address required to
download and run the product, according to the fine print. Other data
collected include usage stats, responses to ads and details about the
PC, according to the AOL agreement.

Alongside the antivirus software, AOL ships an Internet Explorer
toolbar. The Microsoft toolbar includes an indicator for the PC's
security status, a password manager, a pop-up blocker and a link to a
Web site for more information on suspicious sites, the Web company said.
It also includes an AOL Web search box, which can drive traffic to AOL
Search.

<End Quote>

http://news.com.com/AOL+offers+free+antivirus+software/2100-7355_3-610...7.html?
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From: "Art" <null.RemoveThis@zilch.com>

| On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:55:56 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
| <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
|
>|> Questions:
>|> How do you know this is Kaspersky?
>|> Would you use this product over NOD32?
>>
>> This was aksed about recently. I looked it up and yes... it uses a Kaspersky engine.
>>
>> However, you must agree to be spammed and get Pop-Up advertisments !
>>
>> AO-Hell ! { LOL }
|
| In spite of my own reservations, I changed my mind and decided to give
| the product a fair shake. So I activated it. You don't have to agree
| to the Taskbar thing during installation, which I instinctively did
| not do. Later, someone on alt.comp.freeware mentioned that the
| Taskbar is where the devil lies ... it allegedly causes pop ups and
| other undesirable activities.
|
| I'm not having any problems with it so far. I'm in the process of
| trying to determine whether or not it contains spyware. But that
| will require packet inspection sw and it might well prove to be
| quite difficult. KAV 6 rules your machine down at the lowest levels
| including the monitoring of (at least most) all internet traffic.
|
| Also, some people have complained about incompatibility with
| Sygate fw, but I'm not experiencing any problems along those
| lines.
|
| I'll report any problems I find here in this thread.
|
| Art
| http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

I lkook forward to that report Art !

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From: "Art" <null DeleteThis @zilch.com>


|
| There was one a day or two back, but not recently. Why do you
| als?
|
| Art
| http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

Hmmmmm...

I sent you an email concerning a Windows Media Player DRM Exploit.

I guess it is worth posting about so I'll ceate a new post on the subject matter.


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On Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:57:28 -0700, DaVinci <D DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote:

>> In spite of my own reservations, I changed my mind and decided to give
>> the product a fair shake. So I activated it. You don't have to agree
>> to the Taskbar thing during installation, which I instinctively did
>> not do. Later, someone on alt.comp.freeware mentioned that the
>> Taskbar is where the devil lies ... it allegedly causes pop ups and
>> other undesirable activities.
>>
>> I'm not having any problems with it so far. I'm in the process of
>> trying to determine whether or not it contains spyware. But that
>> will require packet inspection sw and it might well prove to be
>> quite difficult. KAV 6 rules your machine down at the lowest levels
>> including the monitoring of (at least most) all internet traffic.
>>
>> Also, some people have complained about incompatibility with
>> Sygate fw, but I'm not experiencing any problems along those
>> lines.
>>
>> I'll report any problems I find here in this thread.

>Art,
>
>I look forward to the report also. Take a look at the following
>information. I've not read the EULA, so I don't know what it contains.
> If the information in this article is accurate, there's more going on
>than meets the eye.
>
><Quote>
>
>While AOL doesn't ask for money, Active Virus Shield users have to agree
>to let AOL and its partners deliver ads to them. "As a condition for
>your use of the software, you agree to receive promotions and periodic
>e-mail messages from us and our affiliates," according to the fine print
>in the license and user agreement of the software.

That's an aspect that I'll not likely be able to evaluate since my ISP
does a good job of spam blocking. I did see a different spam email
sneak throgh this morning concerning low mortgage rates that I haven't
seen in ages, but I obviously have no idea whether or not that spam
email is related to having divulged my email addy to AOL.

>Active Virus Shield collects a host of information that may be used for
>marketing purposes, starting with the e-mail address required to
>download and run the product, according to the fine print. Other data
>collected include usage stats, responses to ads and details about the
>PC, according to the AOL agreement.

The question is whether or not that activity requires the Taskbar
option, which I excluded.

Another question or aspect is whether or not some sort of spyware
is included "along side of" or "in addition to" or "independent of"
AVP.EXE. I looked for that sort of thing last evening and didn't
find anything unusual attempting to "call out". With the realtime
monitor temorarily disabled (AVP.EXE not running), internet
activity was dead as a doornail. On my machine, no ports were open or
internet services active. Nothing unusual was trying for outgoing
internet access that I could find.

With the realtime monitor running, the port activity, etc., looks
the same as with "the real" or regular KAV 6. AVP.EXE shows up
in the same ways using netstat, Fport and Sygate.

So I wonder about any unusual activities of AVP.EXE itself. Seems
doubtful to me that the scanner itself without the Toolbar option
included is doing anything underhanded, but who knows?

>Alongside the antivirus software, AOL ships an Internet Explorer
>toolbar. The Microsoft toolbar includes an indicator for the PC's
>security status, a password manager, a pop-up blocker and a link to a
>Web site for more information on suspicious sites, the Web company said.
>It also includes an AOL Web search box, which can drive traffic to AOL
>Search.
>
><End Quote>
>
>http://news.com.com/AOL+offers+free+antivirus+software/2100-7355_3-6102917.html?tag=nefd.top

Again, I suspect the devil is in the optional Taskbar and in the
spam resulting from divulging your email addy. If there's more
to it than that, it may well be beyond my capabilities of finding
out. We shall see.

Art
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