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moretools4netsaftey

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:45 pm
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Does anyone know more about them? Other than signing up for an AOL e-mail
address, do they load spyware or the famous AOL strings in the registry
that are constantly phoning home giving away user info - or is this a
righteous program?

http://daol.aol.com/safetycenter/virus

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:45 pm
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moretools4netsaftey.DeleteThis@anythingfreeisgood.org wrote:

>Does anyone know more about them? Other than signing up for an AOL e-mail
>address, do they load spyware or the famous AOL strings in the registry
>that are constantly phoning home giving away user info - or is this a
>righteous program?
>
>http://daol.aol.com/safetycenter/virus

Read the end user agreement to find out.

It's a version of kaspersky, a decent virual program.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:51 pm
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moretools4netsaftey DeleteThis @anythingfreeisgood.org wrote:
>
> Does anyone know more about them? Other than signing up for an AOL e-mail

Do NOT use anything AOL


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:39 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 13:45:43 -0600,
moretools4netsaftey.RemoveThis@anythingfreeisgood.org wrote:

>Does anyone know more about them? Other than signing up for an AOL e-mail
>address, do they load spyware or the famous AOL strings in the registry
>that are constantly phoning home giving away user info - or is this a
>righteous program?
>
>http://daol.aol.com/safetycenter/virus

I don't know anything about that suite, but I very much like this:
http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
which is based on Kaspersky antivirus (KAV) version 6. It has the
basic file and email modules plus manual or auto updating. It's very
configurable, and it's a very good basic antimalware product. Just
don't opt for the Toolbar during installation.

Insofar as using a suite goes, many users prefer to use a firewall
and antispyware of their (our) own choosing. Since it appears the
suite requires Win XP, you have the option of using the firewall
built into SP2, for one alternative. Better yet, use a "always there"
external NAT router/fw.

Art
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Luke

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:39 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:39:44 GMT, Art <null.TakeThisOut@zilch.com> wrote:

[snip]
>I don't know anything about that suite, but I very much like this:
>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>which is based on Kaspersky antivirus (KAV) version 6. It has the
>basic file and email modules plus manual or auto updating. It's very
>configurable, and it's a very good basic antimalware product. Just
>don't opt for the Toolbar during installation.
[snip]

Can services, such as the resident scanner and email scanning, in
Active Virus Shield be turned on and off? Are updates small and fast
and the server(s) not too busy?

I know I could just try it, but thought you might save me a little
trouble. Thanks!

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Geoff Realname

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
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Plato wrote:
>
> Do NOT use anything AOL
>
>
What's the problem with AOL? Honest question asked because I don't know
the answer!

Geoff
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:00:13 GMT, Geoff Realname
<realname DeleteThis @no.spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:

>Plato wrote:
>>
>> Do NOT use anything AOL
>>
>>
>What's the problem with AOL? Honest question asked because I don't know
>the answer!

Dishonest business practices, horrendous consumer relations, spamming,
bloated programs one cannot get off one's computer, etc. Ages ago I
was one of many who tried to unsubscribe and couldn't until I
threatened them in writing with a lawsuit. However, their (really
Kaspersky's) Active Virus Shield appears to be a good product. Shows
there are exceptions to almost everything Wink.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
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Luke wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:00:13 GMT, Geoff Realname
> <realname RemoveThis @no.spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Plato wrote:
>>> Do NOT use anything AOL
>>>
>>>
>> What's the problem with AOL? Honest question asked because I don't know
>> the answer!
>
> Dishonest business practices, horrendous consumer relations, spamming,
> bloated programs one cannot get off one's computer, etc. Ages ago I
> was one of many who tried to unsubscribe and couldn't until I
> threatened them in writing with a lawsuit. However, their (really
> Kaspersky's) Active Virus Shield appears to be a good product. Shows
> there are exceptions to almost everything Wink.
>
But don't forget that AOL was quite willing to provide the
US Govt. with search data earlier this year.

Louise
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Pennywise

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
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louise <louise RemoveThis @invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Luke wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:00:13 GMT, Geoff Realname
>> <realname RemoveThis @no.spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Plato wrote:
>>>> Do NOT use anything AOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What's the problem with AOL? Honest question asked because I don't know
>>> the answer!
>>
>> Dishonest business practices, horrendous consumer relations, spamming,
>> bloated programs one cannot get off one's computer, etc. Ages ago I
>> was one of many who tried to unsubscribe and couldn't until I
>> threatened them in writing with a lawsuit. However, their (really
>> Kaspersky's) Active Virus Shield appears to be a good product. Shows
>> there are exceptions to almost everything Wink.

>But don't forget that AOL was quite willing to provide the
>US Govt. with search data earlier this year.

No they didn't give it to the Govt, they gave it to anyone who wanted
it, I still have the data, it's really interesting viewing.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:00 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:59:43 -0500, louise <louise.RemoveThis@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>Luke wrote:
>> On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:00:13 GMT, Geoff Realname
>> <realname.RemoveThis@no.spam.ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Plato wrote:
>>>> Do NOT use anything AOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What's the problem with AOL? Honest question asked because I don't know
>>> the answer!
>>
>> Dishonest business practices, horrendous consumer relations, spamming,
>> bloated programs one cannot get off one's computer, etc. Ages ago I
>> was one of many who tried to unsubscribe and couldn't until I
>> threatened them in writing with a lawsuit. However, their (really
>> Kaspersky's) Active Virus Shield appears to be a good product. Shows
>> there are exceptions to almost everything Wink.
>>
>But don't forget that AOL was quite willing to provide the
>US Govt. with search data earlier this year.

Yep, along with other major Internet companies, though not Google as I
recall. So that's, what?, strike #157 against AOL Hell?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:54 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:45:11 -0700, Luke <luke DeleteThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:39:44 GMT, Art <null DeleteThis @zilch.com> wrote:
>
>[snip]
>>I don't know anything about that suite, but I very much like this:
>>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>>which is based on Kaspersky antivirus (KAV) version 6. It has the
>>basic file and email modules plus manual or auto updating. It's very
>>configurable, and it's a very good basic antimalware product. Just
>>don't opt for the Toolbar during installation.
>[snip]
>
>Can services, such as the resident scanner and email scanning, in
>Active Virus Shield be turned on and off?

Yes they can.

>Are updates small and fast
>and the server(s) not too busy?

Normally. It's best to update often to keep the # of databases
that need to downloaded to a minimum. It's not like some av
products that always dump huge update files on you. They
are all relatively small.

>I know I could just try it, but thought you might save me a little
>trouble. Thanks!

You are very welcome.

Art
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:54 pm
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On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:54:27 GMT, Art <null.RemoveThis@zilch.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:45:11 -0700, Luke <luke.RemoveThis@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:39:44 GMT, Art <null.RemoveThis@zilch.com> wrote:
>>
>>[snip]
>>>I don't know anything about that suite, but I very much like this:
>>>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>>>which is based on Kaspersky antivirus (KAV) version 6. It has the
>>>basic file and email modules plus manual or auto updating. It's very
>>>configurable, and it's a very good basic antimalware product. Just
>>>don't opt for the Toolbar during installation.
>>[snip]
>>
>>Can services, such as the resident scanner and email scanning, in
>>Active Virus Shield be turned on and off?
>
>Yes they can.
>
>>Are updates small and fast
>>and the server(s) not too busy?
>
>Normally. It's best to update often to keep the # of databases
>that need to downloaded to a minimum. It's not like some av
>products that always dump huge update files on you. They
>are all relatively small.
>
>>I know I could just try it, but thought you might save me a little
>>trouble. Thanks!
>
>You are very welcome.

Sounds good. I'll give it a go. Thanks much!

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:56 am
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moretools4netsaftey DeleteThis @anythingfreeisgood.org wrote:

> Does anyone know more about them? Other than signing up for an AOL e-mail
> address, do they load spyware or the famous AOL strings in the registry
> that are constantly phoning home giving away user info - or is this a
> righteous program?
>
> http://daol.aol.com/safetycenter/virus

I have used www.activevirusshield.com (courtesy of AOL) many times to help
out friends.
You can use disposable e-mail addresses (no AOHell address necessary) to
receive your key, and you get a fully functional 1-year subscription to
kaspersky v6 virus scanner, which includes a on-access scanner and
automatic updater, _without_ the "internet security" bloatware.
On install, you get the offer to install a "security toolbar" as well, which
you can deny for good. No spam so far on the spamgourmet addies I gave
them.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 12:30 pm
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 00:56:08 +0100, Walter Mautner
<leafno.20.eatallspam.DeleteThis@spamgourmet.com> wrote:

>I have used www.activevirusshield.com (courtesy of AOL) many times to help
>out friends.
>You can use disposable e-mail addresses (no AOHell address necessary) to
>receive your key, and you get a fully functional 1-year subscription to
>kaspersky v6 virus scanner, which includes a on-access scanner and
>automatic updater, _without_ the "internet security" bloatware.
>On install, you get the offer to install a "security toolbar" as well, which
>you can deny for good. No spam so far on the spamgourmet addies I gave
>them.

I find your comment concerning the absence of spam on the disposable
email addys interesting. I used my normal email addy, and my ISP
does spam filtering .... so I've had no idea what to tell people
concerning this potential issue. I receive very little spam in any
event.

Concerning adware, there is none. Concerning paranoia over
possible "undetectable" spyware, the arguments against this
are:

1. Eugene Kaspersky wouldn't allow it since it would cast
suspicion on his entire product line.
2. No experts have yet discovered and exposed any such
thing in the AOL AVS product yet, that I'm aware of.

Something else I might mention. When I enable both file
and email modules, thus enabling realtime or backgound
scanning, I don't notice any sluggishness or slowdowns
on my 1.6 ghz Win 2K machine with 256 meg RAM. The
AVS product does incorporate the new "speedup"
technologies which were introduced with KAV version 6.
AVS "feels" very light and transparent on my PC.

Note that we are talking here about the AOL AVS
product and _not_ the AOL security suite the OP
questioned.

Art
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