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Since: Feb 07, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:51 pm
Post subject: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6
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Hi,
I'm currently evaluating BitDefender 10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
because I have 2 PCs and a licence for BitDefender 10 cost $29.95 and
is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
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Since: Feb 08, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:05 pm
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hey!
I was in your same shoes; I was looking at Trend Micro instead of
Kapersky but same thing. I did not notice a huge difference. I did
find out after I purchased that BD had scored tops in a Consumer
Report study - they threw about 5000 (iirc) viruses at it that they
comissioned someone from Russia to make (in other words 100% unknown
viruses) and BD was the only one who picked them up.
I felt pretty good about it!
FYI I picked mine up at http://antivirus.citationsoft.com - they still
have the standard pack for the price I saw it up for, $35.96. I bought
the Antivirus Plus for $44.96 (I HATE SPAM!) 2 years / 2 users on mine
too.
HTH!
On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, jaac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently evaluatingBitDefender10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
> sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
> operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
> takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
> in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
> I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
> regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
> these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
> me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>
> However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
> because I have 2 PCs and a licence forBitDefender10 cost $29.95 and
> is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
> licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
> PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>
> Thanks for your answers. |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:05 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> FYI I picked mine up athttp://antivirus.citationsoft.com- they still
> have the standard pack for the price I saw it up for, $35.96. I bought
> the Antivirus Plus for $44.96 (I HATE SPAM!) 2 years / 2 users on mine
> too.
Hey thanks! 
I also hate spam but since I use Thunderbird, which has an integrated
spam filter, I don't need it, and I also use a router for my home
network so I don't need the firewall part neither. At least that's
what people said, with a router we don't need a firewall, but anyway I
use the built-in one provided with windows XP, just in case, so.
Thanks for the info. >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:13 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Depends on your machines. I can tell you that KAV 6 causes no
> noticeable slowdowns on my 1.6 ghz 256M RAM machines.
> Why not try a free eval of KAV or KIS 6 and find out?
I know I can do that, but since many people probably did the same
tests why don't share the result? And beside the review I read I'm
almost sure that KAS will have the same performance, so I didn't want
to waste time uninstalling, installing, uninstalling...
> If you can live without the extra protection modules in KAV 6 then
> try out the free AVS offering from AOL:http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
> which is based on KAV6. It's really kewl! Just don't opt for the
> toolbar during installation. And make sure you have no other AV
> product installed when you try to install either AVS or KAV 6 since
> they will balk.
I work a lot with my 2 PCs so I prefer the full protection. However I
also read that AVS work only for one year.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:15 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> <snip>> I also use a router for my home
> > network so I don't need the firewall part neither. At least that's
> > what people said, with a router we don't need a firewall, but anyway I
> > use the built-in one provided with windows XP, just in case, so.
>
> Neither the router nor the XP firewall tell you anything about outbound
> traffic. There's always the possibility that you may contract a "day zero"
> Trojan that an A-V won't detect.
Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. Neither I know what a "day
zero" means, but it sounds bad enough!
But do you know if the firewall shipped with the version Plus of
BitDefender will do the job? It is surely better than the XP
firewall.
I know that the antivirus BitDefender is well rated but I didn't check
for its firewall.
Jack >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:23 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> FYI I picked mine up athttp://antivirus.citationsoft.com- they still
> have the standard pack for the price I saw it up for, $35.96. I bought
> the Antivirus Plus for $44.96 (I HATE SPAM!) 2 years / 2 users on mine
> too.
Can you tell me how the antispam works with the Plus version?
Does it simply put something like "**SPAM**" at the beginning of the
subject and you just have to create a filter to catch them and process
them in your mail reader?
Jack
> HTH!
>
> On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, jaac... DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm currently evaluatingBitDefender10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
> > sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
> > operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
> > takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
> > in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
> > I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
> > regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
> > these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
> > me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>
> > However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
> > because I have 2 PCs and a licence forBitDefender10 cost $29.95 and
> > is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
> > licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
> > PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>
> > Thanks for your answers. >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:37 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 7 Feb 2007 18:51:45 -0800, jaacckk RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm currently evaluating BitDefender 10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
>sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
>operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
>takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
>in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
>I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
>regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
>these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
>me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
Depends on your machines. I can tell you that KAV 6 causes no
noticeable slowdowns on my 1.6 ghz 256M RAM machines.
>However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
>because I have 2 PCs and a licence for BitDefender 10 cost $29.95 and
>is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
>licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
>PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
Why not try a free eval of KAV or KIS 6 and find out?
If you can live without the extra protection modules in KAV 6 then
try out the free AVS offering from AOL:
http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
which is based on KAV6. It's really kewl! Just don't opt for the
toolbar during installation. And make sure you have no other AV
product installed when you try to install either AVS or KAV 6 since
they will balk.
Art
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:41 am
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> I use Kaspersky 6 on my laptop and it does not slow it down. This is the
> reason I chose it and because it got good reviews.
You're right. I finally uninstalled BD and install KAV on my laptop
and for now everything works fine, no noticiable slow down at all.
> If you register all your computers from the same IP address (all my
> computers use the same Wifi router), you can use the same version of
> Kaspersky on all of them.
I also use the same Wifi router (Linksys) for my 2 PCs.
And by saying the "same version of Kaspersky" I guess you mean the
same "license"? I'm surprise it works because it's easy to send some
hardware info with the license each time it updates its signature to
check if the license is used on more than one PC! Maybe they don't
bother as long as it cames from the same IP (so the same home).
Jack
I have one version of Kaspersky running on the two
> PCs and 2 laptops I have at home. I use the Windows firewall.
> Mick<jaac... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1170903105.873872.92720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I'm currently evaluating BitDefender 10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
> > sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
> > operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
> > takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
> > in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
> > I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
> > regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
> > these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
> > me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>
> > However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
> > because I have 2 PCs and a licence for BitDefender 10 cost $29.95 and
> > is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
> > licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
> > PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>
> > Thanks for your answers. >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:05 pm
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Heyas;
AntiSpam works with Bayesian filtering; from what I found on Google
that means it "learns" from the emails that are flagged as spam or as
friends, apart from being able to do a list of words it should flag
for and you can also tell it to exempt or flag emails and domains. I
like it; it also gives you a toolbar for Outlook.
On Feb 8, 12:23 pm, jaac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
> > FYI I picked mine up athttp://antivirus.citationsoft.com-they still
> > have the standard pack for the price I saw it up for, $35.96. I bought
> > the Antivirus Plus for $44.96 (I HATE SPAM!) 2 years / 2 users on mine
> > too.
>
> Can you tell me how the antispam works with the Plus version?
>
> Does it simply put something like "**SPAM**" at the beginning of the
> subject and you just have to create a filter to catch them and process
> them in your mail reader?
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> > HTH!
>
> > On Feb 7, 9:51 pm, jaac....DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I'm currently evaluatingBitDefender10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
> > > sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
> > > operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
> > > takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
> > > in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
> > > I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
> > > regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
> > > these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
> > > me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>
> > > However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
> > > because I have 2 PCs and a licence forBitDefender10 cost $29.95 and
> > > is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
> > > licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
> > > PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>
> > > Thanks for your answers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text - >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:08 pm
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Firewall is pretty good IMO. It scans incoming, outgoing, and keeps
track of local program access.
On Feb 8, 12:15 pm, jaac....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
> > <snip>> I also use a router for my home
> > > network so I don't need the firewall part neither. At least that's
> > > what people said, with a router we don't need a firewall, but anyway I
> > > use the built-in one provided with windows XP, just in case, so.
>
> > Neither the router nor the XP firewall tell you anything about outbound
> > traffic. There's always the possibility that you may contract a "day zero"
> > Trojan that an A-V won't detect.
>
> Thanks for the info, I didn't know that. Neither I know what a "day
> zero" means, but it sounds bad enough!
>
> But do you know if the firewall shipped with the version Plus ofBitDefenderwill do the job? It is surely better than the XP
> firewall.
>
> I know that the antivirusBitDefenderis well rated but I didn't check
> for its firewall.
>
> Jack >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:15 pm
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:15 pm
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:14 pm
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I use Kaspersky 6 on my laptop and it does not slow it down. This is the
reason I chose it and because it got good reviews.
If you register all your computers from the same IP address (all my
computers use the same Wifi router), you can use the same version of
Kaspersky on all of them. I have one version of Kaspersky running on the two
PCs and 2 laptops I have at home. I use the Windows firewall.
Mick
<jaacckk.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1170903105.873872.92720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I'm currently evaluating BitDefender 10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
> sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
> operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
> takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
> in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>
> I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
> regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
> these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
> me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>
> However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
> because I have 2 PCs and a licence for BitDefender 10 cost $29.95 and
> is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
> licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
> PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>
> Thanks for your answers.
>
> >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:14 pm
Post subject: Re: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I mean the same licence. You appear to be able to use the same licence
repeatedly as long as you register from the same IP address.
Mick
<jaacckk DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I use Kaspersky 6 on my laptop and it does not slow it down. This is the
>> reason I chose it and because it got good reviews.
>
> You're right. I finally uninstalled BD and install KAV on my laptop
> and for now everything works fine, no noticiable slow down at all.
>
>> If you register all your computers from the same IP address (all my
>> computers use the same Wifi router), you can use the same version of
>> Kaspersky on all of them.
>
> I also use the same Wifi router (Linksys) for my 2 PCs.
>
> And by saying the "same version of Kaspersky" I guess you mean the
> same "license"? I'm surprise it works because it's easy to send some
> hardware info with the license each time it updates its signature to
> check if the license is used on more than one PC! Maybe they don't
> bother as long as it cames from the same IP (so the same home).
>
> Jack
>
>
> I have one version of Kaspersky running on the two
>> PCs and 2 laptops I have at home. I use the Windows firewall.
>> Mick<jaac... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1170903105.873872.92720@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > Hi,
>>
>> > I'm currently evaluating BitDefender 10 and for now I'm satisfied. But
>> > sometime it slows down my PC a little too much, depending of the
>> > operation it does. For example sometime when I open Firefox it can
>> > takes 8 seconds (instead of 2) to open, and some other time it opens
>> > in 3 seconds! Same thing with some folders. It can vary a lot.
>>
>> > I'm thinking about evaluating Kaspersky to see if it will be better
>> > regarding these slow down but maybe someone here has already runs
>> > these tests and can share his results and conclusion. Something tell
>> > me that they are very similar in performance, but maybe not!
>>
>> > However, to choose Kaspersky the difference must be really visible
>> > because I have 2 PCs and a licence for BitDefender 10 cost $29.95 and
>> > is valid for 2 PCs (and $39.95 for 2 PCs and 2 years!). While a
>> > licence for Kaspersky cost $39.95 and seems to be valid only for one
>> > PC! The difference in $$$ is big.
>>
>> > Thanks for your answers.
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:22 pm
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Ernie B. wrote:
> On 8 Feb 2007 07:05:23 -0800 jaacckk DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>> I also use a router for my home
>> network so I don't need the firewall part neither. At least that's
>> what people said, with a router we don't need a firewall, but anyway I
>> use the built-in one provided with windows XP, just in case, so.
>>
> Neither the router nor the XP firewall tell you anything about outbound
> traffic. There's always the possibility that you may contract a "day zero"
> Trojan that an A-V won't detect.
So was should one use? This is the question I feel I can
never figure out although I have some vague understanding
that it can be a serious problem.
TIA
Louise >> Stay informed about: BitDefender 10 vs Kaspersky 6 |
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