Avira AntiVir Question

MaHaBone wrote:
>
> <dale.TakeThisOut@nowhere.not> wrote in message
> news:01bq439ojdtmon2e761pigmh8d7k0nbb2q@4ax.com...
>> I've been a Kaspersky user for several years, but the SW is becoming
>> more expensive for my two WinXP systems.
>
> AOL's Active Virus Shield is powered by Kaspersky engine and is free.
> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
> (Opt for NOT downloading the toolbar)
>
> MaHaBone

Since AOL's Kaspersky engine is missing two of Kaspersky's features,
HTTP traffic scanner and "Proactive Protection" (several unique
features), can they really be considered equal? Of course, it looks
like Avira does not have these features either.

dale
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:43:44 +0700, " MaHaBone"
<brotherly_love.RemoveThis@arcanum.net> wrote:

>AOL's Active Virus Shield is powered by Kaspersky engine and is free.
>http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>(Opt for NOT downloading the toolbar)

But you can't opt out of agreeing to receive spam
--

09=ix
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On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:40:29 -0600, Dale wrote:

> MaHaBone wrote:
>>
>> <dale.RemoveThis@nowhere.not> wrote in message
>> news:01bq439ojdtmon2e761pigmh8d7k0nbb2q@4ax.com...
>>> I've been a Kaspersky user for several years, but the SW is becoming
>>> more expensive for my two WinXP systems.
>>
>> AOL's Active Virus Shield is powered by Kaspersky engine and is free.
>> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>> (Opt for NOT downloading the toolbar)
>>
>> MaHaBone
>
> Since AOL's Kaspersky engine is missing two of Kaspersky's features,
> HTTP traffic scanner and "Proactive Protection" (several unique
> features), can they really be considered equal? Of course, it looks
> like Avira does not have these features either.
>
> dale

I've used both and they are far from equal. AOL AVS is a signature scanner,
and that's about it. Granted, it is probably the best signature scanner of
all the free AV's, but the actual Kaspersky AV's features are not even
comparable to AVS - are way beyond its capabilities. I've also used Avira
and found it to be very 'buggy' and extremely prone to false positives. If
I had to choose between Avira and AOL AVS, AVS is my pick. Right now, I am
using the KIV beta and am very pleased with it. However, like you, I'm not
sure I want to pay seventy bucks for the actual version. Once my beta trial
runs out, I imagine I will go back to AVS, as I really don't care for any
of thte other free AV's.
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On Sat, 19 May 2007 02:53:46 -0600, Bullseye <bullseye RemoveThis @nospam.cat>
wrote:

>On Fri, 18 May 2007 14:40:29 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> MaHaBone wrote:
>>>
>>> <dale RemoveThis @nowhere.not> wrote in message
>>> news:01bq439ojdtmon2e761pigmh8d7k0nbb2q@4ax.com...
>>>> I've been a Kaspersky user for several years, but the SW is becoming
>>>> more expensive for my two WinXP systems.
>>>
>>> AOL's Active Virus Shield is powered by Kaspersky engine and is free.
>>> http://www.activevirusshield.com/antivirus/freeav/index.adp?
>>> (Opt for NOT downloading the toolbar)
>>>
>>> MaHaBone
>>
>> Since AOL's Kaspersky engine is missing two of Kaspersky's features,
>> HTTP traffic scanner and "Proactive Protection" (several unique
>> features), can they really be considered equal? Of course, it looks
>> like Avira does not have these features either.
>>
>> dale
>
>I've used both and they are far from equal. AOL AVS is a signature scanner,
>and that's about it. Granted, it is probably the best signature scanner of
>all the free AV's, but the actual Kaspersky AV's features are not even
>comparable to AVS - are way beyond its capabilities. I've also used Avira
>and found it to be very 'buggy' and extremely prone to false positives. If
>I had to choose between Avira and AOL AVS, AVS is my pick. Right now, I am
>using the KIV beta and am very pleased with it. However, like you, I'm not
>sure I want to pay seventy bucks for the actual version. Once my beta trial
>runs out, I imagine I will go back to AVS, as I really don't care for any
>of thte other free AV's.

Thanks for your assessment. I purchased a copy of Avira Antivir
Personal Premium a while back. I've not had any issues with it, other
than my concern that it is so easy to disable. While KAV may miss a
few malwares that Avira finds, I still haven't found anything that is
the overall equal to KAV.

Dale
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MaHaBone wrote:
>
> Interesting write-up from Gary S. Terhune, MS MVP Shell/User.
>
> Somebody asked:
> Do you think that the free AV can be really as efficient that the other
> ones ?
> ---
> Quote:
> Absolutely. In fact, when it comes to real efficiency, the ability to
> scan accurately for viruses without getting in the way of the rest of
> the computer's functions, some of the free ones are more efficient than
> some of the most expensive. For instance, Norton and McAfee, and even
> Trend Micro in some packages, are among the most *inefficient*
> applications out there,whereas Avast!, AVG, and other free offerings are
> among the most efficient.
> After that, it's a question of the definitions used, and whether or not
> they're free has absolutely no bearing on those stats.
> Understand, many of the best offerings are offered to home users for
> free by huge companies that make their money serving business and
> industry clients,and their logic is that the more home machines they can
> get protected,preventing them from becoming zombies that distribute
> malware, the better off business and industry are.

That is certainly a very valid reason for providing good, and free,
anti-virus SW. I had not thought about it. Makes good sense.

Dale
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On Sun, 20 May 2007 08:13:33 +0700, MaHaBone wrote:

> <dale.TakeThisOut@nowhere.not> wrote in message
>> I purchased a copy of Avira Antivir Personal Premium a while back.
>
> Interesting write-up from Gary S. Terhune, MS MVP Shell/User.
>
> Somebody asked:
> Do you think that the free AV can be really as efficient that the other ones
> ?
> ---
> Quote:
> Absolutely. In fact, when it comes to real efficiency, the ability to scan
> accurately for viruses without getting in the way of the rest of the
> computer's functions, some of the free ones are more efficient than some of
> the most expensive. For instance, Norton and McAfee, and even Trend Micro in
> some packages, are among the most *inefficient* applications out
> there,whereas Avast!, AVG, and other free offerings are among the most
> efficient.
> After that, it's a question of the definitions used, and whether or not
> they're free has absolutely no bearing on those stats.
> Understand, many of the best offerings are offered to home users for free by
> huge companies that make their money serving business and industry
> clients,and their logic is that the more home machines they can get
> protected,preventing them from becoming zombies that distribute malware, the
> better off business and industry are.

Very good point. What is the use of having an antivirus app if it affects
your system worse than the malware would in some cases? Apps like Norton
take over your system and can slow it to a crawl as well as cause conflicts
with a lot of software.
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<dale.RemoveThis@nowhere.not> wrote in message
> I purchased a copy of Avira Antivir Personal Premium a while back.

Interesting write-up from Gary S. Terhune, MS MVP Shell/User.

Somebody asked:
Do you think that the free AV can be really as efficient that the other ones
?
---
Quote:
Absolutely. In fact, when it comes to real efficiency, the ability to scan
accurately for viruses without getting in the way of the rest of the
computer's functions, some of the free ones are more efficient than some of
the most expensive. For instance, Norton and McAfee, and even Trend Micro in
some packages, are among the most *inefficient* applications out
there,whereas Avast!, AVG, and other free offerings are among the most
efficient.
After that, it's a question of the definitions used, and whether or not
they're free has absolutely no bearing on those stats.
Understand, many of the best offerings are offered to home users for free by
huge companies that make their money serving business and industry
clients,and their logic is that the more home machines they can get
protected,preventing them from becoming zombies that distribute malware, the
better off business and industry are.
--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
Unquote.
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