Avast 4.8 free ver VS AVG 8.0

In news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
Tommy McClure <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> after much thought,came up
with this jewel:
> First time I have used Avast. I have been using AVG 7.5 I just
> installed Avast 4.8 free and performed pattern updates. I used the
> standard install, the program uses 45mb in memory when idling. When I
> perform a scan it loads another module of 10mb.
>
Check your settings. I just installed avast
ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
ashDisp.exe 1,300k
ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
ashServ.exe 11,516k
doesn't even come close to 45mb.

> 1. How does this compare with AVG 7.5 and 8.0?
seems lighter to me.

> 2. I also could not find a scheduling option. Does any exist?
You have to pay for scheduling. You can, however, schedule a boot-time scan.

> 3. If not can I use Windows scheduler to do this?
perhaps....

> 4. Does scanning perform in the background as in McAfee, Norton, etc?
pretty much

> Several questions here. TIA
a little from here a little fron there

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What's in a Name? wrote:
> In news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
> Tommy McClure <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> after much thought,came
> up with this jewel:
>> First time I have used Avast. I have been using AVG 7.5 I just
>> installed Avast 4.8 free and performed pattern updates. I used the
>> standard install, the program uses 45mb in memory when idling. When I
>> perform a scan it loads another module of 10mb.
>>
> Check your settings. I just installed avast
> ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
> ashDisp.exe 1,300k
> ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
> ashServ.exe 11,516k
> doesn't even come close to 45mb.
>
my comparable
ashDisp.exe 2,156k
ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
ashServ.exe 28,300k
ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
aswUpdSv.exe 292k


>> 1. How does this compare with AVG 7.5 and 8.0?
> seems lighter to me.
>
numbers speak louder than words


>> 2. I also could not find a scheduling option. Does any exist?
> You have to pay for scheduling. You can, however, schedule a
> boot-time scan.
>
sheduling is not the right word

>> 3. If not can I use Windows scheduler to do this?
> perhaps....
I will peruse the forums for this one
>
>> 4. Does scanning perform in the background as in McAfee, Norton,
>> etc? pretty much
>
too vague for me, couldn't find any settings for this


>> Several questions here. TIA
> a little from here a little fron there
>
> max

I have a dual PII 500mhz, 768mb W2K pro SP4
what is yours?
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Tommy McClure wrote:
> What's in a Name? wrote:
>> In news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
>> Tommy McClure <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> after much thought,came
>> up with this jewel:
>>> First time I have used Avast. I have been using AVG 7.5 I just
>>> installed Avast 4.8 free and performed pattern updates. I used the
>>> standard install, the program uses 45mb in memory when idling. When
>>> I perform a scan it loads another module of 10mb.
>>>
>> Check your settings. I just installed avast
>> ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
>> ashDisp.exe 1,300k
>> ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
>> ashServ.exe 11,516k
>> doesn't even come close to 45mb.
>>
> my comparable
> ashDisp.exe 2,156k
> ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
> ashServ.exe 28,300k
> ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
> aswUpdSv.exe 292k
>
>
>>> 1. How does this compare with AVG 7.5 and 8.0?
>> seems lighter to me.
>>
> numbers speak louder than words
>
>
>>> 2. I also could not find a scheduling option. Does any exist?
>> You have to pay for scheduling. You can, however, schedule a
>> boot-time scan.
>>
> sheduling is not the right word
>
>>> 3. If not can I use Windows scheduler to do this?
>> perhaps....
> I will peruse the forums for this one
>>
>>> 4. Does scanning perform in the background as in McAfee, Norton,
>>> etc? pretty much
>>
> too vague for me, couldn't find any settings for this
>
>
>>> Several questions here. TIA
>> a little from here a little fron there
>>
>> max
>
> I have a dual PII 500mhz, 768mb W2K pro SP4
> what is yours?

I had Avast running a full scan last night. Good news, it is finding things
that AVG missed. Bad news : it froze up, and I had to do a warm reboot.
Seems like the vastness is the problem. AVG 8 may also be infected. Or
maybe I just need a new pc with 40gb ram and 2000gb hd and 5 ghz quad core
processor.
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Ernie B. wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:27:02 -0500 "Tommy McClure"
> <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> wrote:
>
>> I had Avast running a full scan last night. Good news, it is finding
>> things that AVG missed. Bad news : it froze up, and I had to do a
>> warm reboot. Seems like the vastness is the problem. AVG 8 may also
>> be infected. Or maybe I just need a new pc with 40gb ram and 2000gb
>> hd and 5 ghz quad core processor.
>>
> Have you tried a boot-time scan with Avast? Start Avast, schedule it
> from the menu, check the "Advanced options" to put infected files
> into the Virus Chest and re-boot. It does the scan before Windows
> loads. I do this about once/month.

I found out you have to get the pay version to do scheduling, or command
line capability. Also, with poptray it scans all the email, even the stuff
I'm planning to delete. Takes a long time. Also I had to enable skins to see
the entire menu so I did schedule a boot scan, found no more virus problems.
It scans everything coming off the internet. The options to disable any of
this stuff are quite limited. May as well do an online Panda or McAfee
scan. Seems they should be building a mp3 player.
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What's in a Name? wrote:
> In news:48581a48$0$9836$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org,
> Tommy McClure <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> after much thought,came
> up with this jewel:
>> First time I have used Avast. I have been using AVG 7.5 I just
>> installed Avast 4.8 free and performed pattern updates. I used the
>> standard install, the program uses 45mb in memory when idling. When I
>> perform a scan it loads another module of 10mb.
>>
> Check your settings. I just installed avast
> ashWebSv.exe 1,652k
> ashDisp.exe 1,300k
> ashMaiSv.exe 1,908k
> ashServ.exe 11,516k
> doesn't even come close to 45mb.
>
>> 1. How does this compare with AVG 7.5 and 8.0?
> seems lighter to me.
>
>> 2. I also could not find a scheduling option. Does any exist?
> You have to pay for scheduling. You can, however, schedule a
> boot-time scan.
>
>> 3. If not can I use Windows scheduler to do this?
> perhaps....
>
>> 4. Does scanning perform in the background as in McAfee, Norton,
>> etc? pretty much
>
>> Several questions here. TIA
> a little from here a little fron there
>
> max

FYI
here are the processes for AVG 7.5 running on my box:
avgamsvr.exe 192k
avgcc.exe 1320k
avgemc.exe 556k
avgupsvc.exe 528k

WTF!!??
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> ashDisp.exe 2,156k
> ashMaiSv.exe 2,448k
> ashServ.exe 28,300k
> ashWebSv.exe 32,356k
> aswUpdSv.exe 292k

Is this "working set" or "private bytes"
(and what is exacly the difference ????)

I checked mine with Process Explorer:

ashDisp.exe 4464 (working), 3604 (private)
ashMaiSv.exe 3228 (working), 2708 (private)
ashServ.exe 12128 (working), 17744 (private)
ashWebSv.exe 45564 (working), 16084 (private)
aswUpdSv.exe 224 (wirking), 424 (private)

So I have even more on the web-shield...

But my main problem is that often my PC hangs for a long while when
starting programs (no activity at all), then it continues as normal.

With an earlier avast! version it sometime locked up completly

But I like it, so I won't give it up yet....

Anyone for avast! that can comment on the RAM usage?

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Ernie B. wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:38:01 -0500 "Tommy McClure"
> <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> wrote:
>
>> I found out you have to get the pay version to do scheduling, or
>> command line capability.
>
> Bells & whistles that I, personally, wouldn't use.
>

You have those for free with AVG. My pc is automatically scanned late at
night while I sleep. With the command line options , I use Task Scheduler,
and scan everyother day. That way I don't have to use the pay version.

>> Also, with poptray it scans all the email, even the stuff
>> I'm planning to delete. Takes a long time.
>
> Have you thought of checking your email with webmail and deleting the
> junk from the server? Avast only scans what your email client
> downloads, if you delete the spam from the server then Avast never
> sees it and doesn't spend time on it.
>
I use Poptray to do this because it saves time and reduces errors from human
interaction. Plus it takes much longer to do.


>> Also I had to enable skins to see
>> the entire menu so I did schedule a boot scan, found no more virus
>> problems.
>
> Good! I don't understand your comment about the skins though, the
> default silver skin has the menu selection ^ arrow in the upper LH
> corner.
>
Before I enabled skins, I could not schedule a boot scan. The pull down menu
did not have many important selections , such as boot scan.

>> It scans everything coming off the internet. The options to disable
>> any of this stuff are quite limited.
>
> For on-access scanners I have Internet Mail, Standard Shield and Web
> Shield enabled, the remainder disabled. You could explore the custom
> settings for each of the scanners to see what best meets your needs.
>
Things like the Web Shield are nice for pc novices that wander onto virus
laden sites. The prices for this is very heavy use of time and resources.
[ see my process list on another post]. They have extensive advanced options
which I couldn't figure out, much less a new pc user.

>> May as well do an online Panda or McAfee
>> scan. Seems they should be building a mp3 player.
>>
> I think Avast would make a poor mp3 player, prefer Winamp.

Why waste time on kidde stuff like skins?

I took Avast free off. I am now going to try AVG free 8.0. Hoping that the
footprint is much lighter. Stay tuned if you want to know what I find.
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 15:10:45 -0500, "Tommy McClure"
<tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg> wrote:

>
>First time I have used Avast. I have been using AVG 7.5 I just installed
>Avast 4.8 free and performed pattern updates. I used the standard install,
>the program uses 45mb in memory when idling. When I perform a scan it loads
>another module of 10mb.
>
>1. How does this compare with AVG 7.5 and 8.0?
>2. I also could not find a scheduling option. Does any exist?
>3. If not can I use Windows scheduler to do this?
>4. Does scanning perform in the background as in McAfee, Norton, etc?
>
>Several questions here. TIA

Have you tried the free Avira AntiVir at http://www.free-av.com/ ? I
found it much lighter on resources than AVG 8.0.

It has scheduling options for scanning and the configuration options (in
expert mode) are more extensive than AVG 8.0.
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Kaspersky Internet Security only uses about 10-20 MB of RAM in the
background. There is also an option to have it concede resources to
applications that require a lot of RAM. I think it is much better than
AVG or Avast. You can activate a thirty day trial to see if you like it.

http://www.kaspersky.com

JM


>
> Have you tried the free Avira AntiVir at http://www.free-av.com/ ? I
> found it much lighter on resources than AVG 8.0.
>
> It has scheduling options for scanning and the configuration options (in
> expert mode) are more extensive than AVG 8.0.
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:27:02 -0500, Tommy McClure wrote:

> I had Avast running a full scan last night. Good news, it is finding things
> that AVG missed. Bad news : it froze up, and I had to do a warm reboot.
> Seems like the vastness is the problem. AVG 8 may also be infected. Or
> maybe I just need a new pc with 40gb ram and 2000gb hd and 5 ghz quad core
> processor.

I use Avast on an older pc running WinXP, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD, and AMD
AthlonXP 2500+ processor. I have no problems running it.

Patty
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Patty wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:27:02 -0500, Tommy McClure wrote:
>
>> I had Avast running a full scan last night. Good news, it is finding things
>> that AVG missed. Bad news : it froze up, and I had to do a warm reboot.
>> Seems like the vastness is the problem. AVG 8 may also be infected. Or
>> maybe I just need a new pc with 40gb ram and 2000gb hd and 5 ghz quad core
>> processor.

Do you mean a 2TB HD?

Anyhow, I suspect that AVG isn't happy with with the quad core CPU,
and/or Vista isn't doing as good a job as it should apportioning threads
to those four processors. AFAIK, current software** is not written to
take advantage of four cores, and Vista's threading technology is
essentially the same as WinNT/2K/XP - not really built for multi-core CPUs.

** Data crunching and simulation software written for and used by
physicists and such excepted.

> I use Avast on an older pc running WinXP, 1GB RAM, 120GB HD, and AMD
> AthlonXP 2500+ processor. I have no problems running it.
>
> Patty

A nice plain vanilla machine, well suited for current software.

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