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Since: May 04, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:40 am
Post subject: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) Archived from groups: alt>comp>anti-virus, others (more info?)
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I have been using AVG6 on a WinXP machine for several months now as my
primary resident, on-access and email AV scanner. As a secondary line
of defense I recently installed Avast! Home as my on-demand scanner.
I purposely did a custom install and did NOT install any of the
resident on-access components. Now when I boot up, I get an Avast!
error dialog box stating that it has found AVG6 resident components
and therefore has disabled all of the Avast! on-access, resident
components (which are not even installed!). Although I hate seeing
this dialog every time I boot, I suppose I could live with it. The
real problem is this:
After closing the above mentioned error dialog, Avast! appears in the
systray but with the red circle with a slash through it, no doubt due
to the resident components being disabled. When I double-click the
systray icon or right-click and select "Start Avast! I get the
following error dialog box:
"The AAVM subsytem detected and RPC error. The operation could not be
completed." And that's as far as it gets.
If instead, I double-click the regular desktop shortcut icon, Avast!
goes through its memory and startup scan and then promptly minimizes
to the taskbar where it can only be closed. It cannot be made to
appear on the screen normally.
The only way that I can get Avast! to do an actual scan is to select a
drive, folder, file, or group of files with Explorer and right-click
then use the context menu to scan from there. This does not show the
usual "skinnable" program display but rather just shows a plain-jane
rectangular box. I does, however seem to scan OK.
Has anyone gotten these two programs to coexist with AVG6 as the
primary resident scanner and Avast! as the secondary on-demand
scanner? I've done a fair amount of Googling and searching of the
Avast website but haven't found any definitive help.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
p.s. I had no such problems setting up this arrangement with Anti-Vir
as the secondary on-demand scanner. >> Stay informed about: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) |
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Since: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 214
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 2:19 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>comp>virus (more info?)
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Tom Geer wrote:
> I have been using AVG6 on a WinXP machine for several months now as my
> primary resident, on-access and email AV scanner. As a secondary line
> of defense I recently installed Avast! Home as my on-demand scanner.
> I purposely did a custom install and did NOT install any of the
> resident on-access components. Now when I boot up, I get an Avast!
> error dialog box stating that it has found AVG6 resident components
> and therefore has disabled all of the Avast! on-access, resident
> components (which are not even installed!). Although I hate seeing
> this dialog every time I boot, I suppose I could live with it. The
> real problem is this:
>
> After closing the above mentioned error dialog, Avast! appears in the
> systray but with the red circle with a slash through it, no doubt due
> to the resident components being disabled. When I double-click the
> systray icon or right-click and select "Start Avast! I get the
> following error dialog box:
>
> "The AAVM subsytem detected and RPC error. The operation could not be
> completed." And that's as far as it gets.
>
> If instead, I double-click the regular desktop shortcut icon, Avast!
> goes through its memory and startup scan and then promptly minimizes
> to the taskbar where it can only be closed. It cannot be made to
> appear on the screen normally.
>
> The only way that I can get Avast! to do an actual scan is to select a
> drive, folder, file, or group of files with Explorer and right-click
> then use the context menu to scan from there. This does not show the
> usual "skinnable" program display but rather just shows a plain-jane
> rectangular box. I does, however seem to scan OK.
>
> Has anyone gotten these two programs to coexist with AVG6 as the
> primary resident scanner and Avast! as the secondary on-demand
> scanner? I've done a fair amount of Googling and searching of the
> Avast website but haven't found any definitive help.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tom
>
> p.s. I had no such problems setting up this arrangement with Anti-Vir
> as the secondary on-demand scanner.
My advice would be to have Avast be your real time scanner, and AVG be
your on demand. I have a simular setup, where Sophos is my real time,
AVG is my on-demand scanner, both have regularly scheduled scans
overnight, and AVG does all my e-mail scanning. The neat thing about my
setup is, when AVG does the e-mail scanning, Sophos checks it first
(because the file is being accessed by another program [AVG]), then AVG
checks it if Sophos misses it, so it's like having two scanners, even
though only one is set to do the actual scanning. Anyway, haven't had
any problems with my current setup.
--
William
If it don't work, hit it.
If it still don't work, kick it.
If it works after that, than it doesn't matter if that helped, what's
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Since: May 04, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 4:44 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>comp>anti-virus, others (more info?)
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Tom Geer wrote:
> Has anyone gotten these two programs to coexist with AVG6 as the
> primary resident scanner and Avast! as the secondary on-demand
> scanner? I've done a fair amount of Googling and searching of the
> Avast website but haven't found any definitive help.
I haven't done it (I use Avast as a primary and F-prot as a secondary)
but maybe instead of using Avast as the secondary, use it as a primary
(ie let it install normally) then use AVG as a secondary. Avast can be
weird working with other resident AVs- it doesn't play well with AVG or
Nortons, but a non resident scanner like F-prot gives it no problems. >> Stay informed about: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) |
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Since: May 04, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Tue, 04 May 2004 11:44:26 -0500, Anti_Freak_Machine wrote:
> Tom Geer wrote:
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>> Has anyone gotten these two programs to coexist with AVG6 as the
>> primary resident scanner and Avast! as the secondary on-demand
>> scanner? I've done a fair amount of Googling and searching of the
>> Avast website but haven't found any definitive help.
>
> I haven't done it (I use Avast as a primary and F-prot as a secondary)
> but maybe instead of using Avast as the secondary, use it as a primary
> (ie let it install normally) then use AVG as a secondary. Avast can be
> weird working with other resident AVs- it doesn't play well with AVG or
> Nortons, but a non resident scanner like F-prot gives it no problems.
I've installed both avg and avast on my father's xp system.
Other than avast's dialog box saying that some of it's
parts were disabled because of conflicts with avg,
it works just fine.
Maybe you should uninstall and re-install avast.
Also, I remember that during the avast install I
changed some options from their defaults.
I can't remember what I did now, but you could
try installing avast with different features
enabled than the default.
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Since: Dec 25, 2003 Posts: 147
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 8:42 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <6eaeefd4.0405040740.45a400e DeleteThis @posting.google.com>,
fredgrinder DeleteThis @mail.com says...
> I have been using AVG6 on a WinXP machine for several months now as my
> primary resident, on-access and email AV scanner. As a secondary line
> of defense I recently installed Avast! Home as my on-demand scanner.
> I purposely did a custom install and did NOT install any of the
> resident on-access components. Now when I boot up, I get an Avast!
> error dialog box stating that it has found AVG6 resident components
> and therefore has disabled all of the Avast! on-access, resident
> components (which are not even installed!). Although I hate seeing
> this dialog every time I boot, I suppose I could live with it. The
> real problem is this:
>
> After closing the above mentioned error dialog, Avast! appears in the
> systray but with the red circle with a slash through it, no doubt due
> to the resident components being disabled. When I double-click the
> systray icon or right-click and select "Start Avast! I get the
> following error dialog box:
>
> "The AAVM subsytem detected and RPC error. The operation could not be
> completed." And that's as far as it gets.
>
> If instead, I double-click the regular desktop shortcut icon, Avast!
> goes through its memory and startup scan and then promptly minimizes
> to the taskbar where it can only be closed. It cannot be made to
> appear on the screen normally.
>
> The only way that I can get Avast! to do an actual scan is to select a
> drive, folder, file, or group of files with Explorer and right-click
> then use the context menu to scan from there. This does not show the
> usual "skinnable" program display but rather just shows a plain-jane
> rectangular box. I does, however seem to scan OK.
>
> Has anyone gotten these two programs to coexist with AVG6 as the
> primary resident scanner and Avast! as the secondary on-demand
> scanner? I've done a fair amount of Googling and searching of the
> Avast website but haven't found any definitive help.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Tom
>
> p.s. I had no such problems setting up this arrangement with Anti-Vir
> as the secondary on-demand scanner.
>
Ive had AVG6 and avast coexisting on a 98se pc , with avast as the resident
scanner.Disable resident shield in avg control centre and the avg stsrtup
(msconfig) entries.After a month or two and a bit of experementing i
realized that AVG detects less than avast so isnt really worth having as a
second opinion.Just use one of the online scanners as a second opinion and
choose one of the AVS to keep.Personally id choose avast.
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Since: May 04, 2004 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 9:21 pm
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Jason Wade wrote:
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> I've installed both avg and avast on my father's xp system.
> Other than avast's dialog box saying that some of it's
> parts were disabled because of conflicts with avg,
> it works just fine.
>
> Maybe you should uninstall and re-install avast.
> Also, I remember that during the avast install I
> changed some options from their defaults.
>
> I can't remember what I did now, but you could
> try installing avast with different features
> enabled than the default.
>
I've pretty much decided to not use AVG at all. When I downloaded
Avast, it wouldn't even install with AVG running. Once I cleared that
obstacle, it ran fine until after an update when it suddenly detected an
old copy of Nortons I had that came with the computer (subscription ran
out). From what I've noticed AVG and Avast are pretty heavy on
resources so one is enough (with F-prot as a backup) >> Stay informed about: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) |
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Since: May 25, 2004 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 12:17 pm
Post subject: Re: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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">
> > Ive had AVG6 and avast coexisting on a 98se pc , with avast as the
resident
> > scanner.Disable resident shield in avg control centre and the avg
stsrtup
> > (msconfig) entries.After a month or two and a bit of experementing
i
> > realized that AVG detects less than avast so isnt really worth
having as a
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > second opinion.Just use one of the online scanners as a second
opinion and
> > choose one of the AVS to keep.Personally id choose avast.
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> Is this *really* because AVG detects less or is it because those
files
> that Avast finds to be infected it prohibits AVG from accessing?
Have
> *any* files found to be infected by Avast also been found by AVG?
>
> If Avast would run was an on-demand scanner and not prohibit some
other AV
> product to be the resident scanner, perhaps it wouldn't *appear* to
be as
> good. (Then again, perhaps it could be *proven* to have better
detection.
> As long as it remains uncooperative, no user can tell for sure.)
>
> --
I am now running AVAST and find it does a better job than AVG
especially with email. It does take more resources and slows some
things. It takes 13 seconds to load PhotoShop CS with Avast and 9sec
if I pause the standard shield. That is a huge difference. It doesn't
need to scan everything every time, but it does. I don't know if there
is a way to tell it not to scan certain files. If anyone knows I would
appreciate an answer. >> Stay informed about: AVG and Avast! coexist? (semi-long) |
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