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Hi all,
Anyone familar with how to rig the AVG thru a FW like Outpost? I have
assigned ports for the servers, but no log data coming in for FW or AVG.
OEv.6 is the email client and it gets its mail thru an ssl connect.
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> >> Iv got Avast Antivirus, Home Edition, but so many people have told me
> >> that it mises a lot of viruses, is this true?
> >>
> >> Iv also got Ewido antispyware, supernatispyware.
> >>
> >> What other free antivirus is good? (apart from avg, which is worse than
> >> avast)
> >
> > It is not true.
> >
> > I would like to see the list of viruses that Avast misses if anyone
could
> > actually supply one. I've been using Avast for a couple of years, and
also
> > installing it on ALL of the systems that I build and/or clean and not
one
> > person or customer has been infected with a virus since I've been using
> > it.
> >
> > When I originally switched to Avast, these forums were filled with posts
> > criticizing Norton and McAfee as missing lots of viruses, and talking up
> > AVG, Avast, and Nod32. I had McAfee and started to get worried, even
> > though I had never been infected with a virus while using McAfee. I
> > finally decided to try AVG and Avast because I got tired of paying
> > McAfee's yearly fees.
> >
> > pc doc
> AVG is very very good, but not cheap to own.
>
>
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I agree with what Dave said, I recommend Avira AntiVir.

Here is some Pros and Cons of Antivir:

Pros:

1. Higher detection rate than AVG and Avast.
Proof: The Reports from http://av-comparatives.org AND
http://www.virus.gr

2. Good Heuristic Detection

(in terms of proactive detection of new worms/trojans etc.
It makes a no. of false postives though)
Proof: The Reports from http://www.av-comparatives.org


3. According to my experience, it is lighter than Avast.
(Avast slow down my computer so much) <This is only personal
opinion>
Its engine is rated as fast at a recent report from Reports from
http://www.av-comparatives.org


4. Faster response time to virus outbreaks than AVG and Avast. (4-6
hours)
Proof:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/12/ranking_response_ti..._for_an


Cons:

1. No detection ability of Ad/Spyware in Classic (Free) Version

2. No POP3 mail scan in Free Version

3. The update server or the updater of the program is not so good.

You may find that even though there is new virus signature database
release,
your updater may only download the newest one. So if your are cautious
about your security during virus outbreak, you may need to do manual
update.

The steps are simple:
Download the database files and engine in a zip archieve (but it is
about 8MB) and
Click update--> manual update --> choose the file you have just
downloaded.
Wait about ~10 seconds FINISHED

4. There is one feature of antivir some people may find disturbing. It
is the Antivir notifier.
It is used to display advertisements in Antivir free version, but these
advertisments are limited to selling their Premium Version of Antivir
which have POP3 scanner and Ad/Spyware ability. The notifier will only
display once or twice per day
(when you update Antivir). You have to do is just clicking "ok" to
close them.

5. Antivir is well known for making false positive, The number of its
false positives is rated "many" in one recent report from
av-comparatives.


If anyone can find more advantages/disadvantages of Avira Antivir
(including opposite opinion) or even other good antivirus, welcome to
post them here.


P.S. There is something called Active Virus Shield appears in the free
antivirus market.It is a clone of Kaspersky Antivirus which has
extremely high detection rate in antivirus tests. Has anyone try Active
Virus Shield? I have not try that yet. I think Kaspersky consume too
much system resources, but I will stay with Antivir even Active Virus
Shield (a clone of KAV) is FREE.

According to the EULA of AVS, AOL reserves the right to display
advertisements in the program.--> ADWARE
Reference:http://www.castlecops.com/a6636-AOL_Active_Virus_Shield_Permits_Adware.html\

Another reason for not trying AVS !



Puzzlemuscle
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From: "pc doctor" <msuhm.DeleteThis@excite.com>


|
| It is not true.
|
| I would like to see the list of viruses that Avast misses if anyone could
| actually supply one. I've been using Avast for a couple of years, and also
| installing it on ALL of the systems that I build and/or clean and not one
| person or customer has been infected with a virus since I've been using it.
|
| When I originally switched to Avast, these forums were filled with posts
| criticizing Norton and McAfee as missing lots of viruses, and talking up
| AVG, Avast, and Nod32. I had McAfee and started to get worried, even though
| I had never been infected with a virus while using McAfee. I finally decided
| to try AVG and Avast because I got tired of paying McAfee's yearly fees.
|
| pc doc
|

He, he, a challenge...

Can I demote you down to Nurse from Doctor ?

Avast seems to have missed this one...
---------
ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.862915 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00570512 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Lop.Z 1.43173 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.2615 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.06183 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.291816 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Virtumod 5.57038 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.537591 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.57485 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.75965 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 Clean 2.08971 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.31442 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.77669 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Clean 11.1694 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.3029 secs

And Avast seems to have missed this one as well ...

---------------
ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.802041 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00503421 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.EP 1.37909 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.2612 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Trojan.Obfuscator.B 4.05365 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.014282 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.GLoad 5.59442 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.424895 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.52801 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 7.81964 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/Agent.NDB trojan 2.0897 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.57242 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.75718 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Obfuscated.a 2.11022 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.27767 secs


Wow, Avast missed this one too...

-----------------
ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.876894 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00519991 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.ABI 1.41969 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.25413 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.18134 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.0753601 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Webcon 5.59162 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.524634 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.52827 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.48965 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Agent trojan 2.23972 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 5.46443 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.79051 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Small.jm 2.1101 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.69238 secs



All tested files are new. All are part of a very NASTY Adware-RootKit combo.


AVG did as well as AntiVir in the above but it is "my opinion" that AntiVir is better than
AVG and Avast and is the *best* in the FREE AV family.


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From: "Puzzlemuscle" <puzzlemuscle.DeleteThis@gmail.com>

| I agree with what Dave said, I recommend Avira AntiVir.
|
| Here is some Pros and Cons of Antivir:
|
| Pros:
|
| 1. Higher detection rate than AVG and Avast.
| Proof: The Reports from http://av-comparatives.org AND
| http://www.virus.gr
|
| 2. Good Heuristic Detection
|
| (in terms of proactive detection of new worms/trojans etc.
| It makes a no. of false postives though)
| Proof: The Reports from http://www.av-comparatives.org
|
| 3. According to my experience, it is lighter than Avast.
| (Avast slow down my computer so much) <This is only personal
opinion>>
| Its engine is rated as fast at a recent report from Reports from
| http://www.av-comparatives.org
|
| 4. Faster response time to virus outbreaks than AVG and Avast. (4-6
| hours)
| Proof:
| http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/12/ranking_response_ti..._for_an
|
| Cons:
|
| 1. No detection ability of Ad/Spyware in Classic (Free) Version
|
| 2. No POP3 mail scan in Free Version
|
| 3. The update server or the updater of the program is not so good.
|
| You may find that even though there is new virus signature database
| release,
| your updater may only download the newest one. So if your are cautious
| about your security during virus outbreak, you may need to do manual
| update.
|
| The steps are simple:
| Download the database files and engine in a zip archieve (but it is
| about 8MB) and
| Click update--> manual update --> choose the file you have just
| downloaded.
| Wait about ~10 seconds FINISHED
|
| 4. There is one feature of antivir some people may find disturbing. It
| is the Antivir notifier.
| It is used to display advertisements in Antivir free version, but these
| advertisments are limited to selling their Premium Version of Antivir
| which have POP3 scanner and Ad/Spyware ability. The notifier will only
| display once or twice per day
| (when you update Antivir). You have to do is just clicking "ok" to
| close them.
|
| 5. Antivir is well known for making false positive, The number of its
| false positives is rated "many" in one recent report from
| av-comparatives.
|
| If anyone can find more advantages/disadvantages of Avira Antivir
| (including opposite opinion) or even other good antivirus, welcome to
| post them here.
|
| P.S. There is something called Active Virus Shield appears in the free
| antivirus market.It is a clone of Kaspersky Antivirus which has
| extremely high detection rate in antivirus tests. Has anyone try Active
| Virus Shield? I have not try that yet. I think Kaspersky consume too
| much system resources, but I will stay with Antivir even Active Virus
| Shield (a clone of KAV) is FREE.
|
| According to the EULA of AVS, AOL reserves the right to display
| advertisements in the program.--> ADWARE
| Reference:http://www.castlecops.com/a6636-AOL_Active_Virus_Shield_Permits_Adware.html\
|
| Another reason for not trying AVS !
|
| Puzzlemuscle

Another advantage:

Avira is quick to create new definitions for submissions on new malware and will reply in
email indicating that fact and the name(s) of the infectors found/detected.

AVG and Avast are not quick and you get NO replies for subitted samples.

Ian and I have put together a good list of submission addresses.
http://www.ik-cs.com/suspicious-files.htm

Albeit, the address for AntiVir is not up-to-date on the above page. It should be...

virus.DeleteThis@avira.com

I'll have Ian update the page.

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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "pc doctor" <msuhm.DeleteThis@excite.com>

[snip]

>
> He, he, a challenge...
>
> Can I demote you down to Nurse from Doctor ?
>
> Avast seems to have missed this one...
> ---------
> ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.862915 secs
> avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00570512 secs
> AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Lop.Z 1.43173 secs
> Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.2615 secs
> BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.06183 secs
> ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.291816 secs
> Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Virtumod 5.57038 secs
> F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.537591 secs
> H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.57485 secs
> Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.75965 secs
> NOD32 2.51.1 Clean 2.08971 secs
> Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.31442 secs
> Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.77669 secs
> VBA32 3.11.1 Clean 11.1694 secs
> VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.3029 secs
>
> And Avast seems to have missed this one as well ...
>
> ---------------
> ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.802041 secs
> avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00503421 secs
> AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.EP 1.37909 secs
> Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.2612 secs
> BitDefender 7.1 Trojan.Obfuscator.B 4.05365 secs
> ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.014282 secs
> Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.GLoad 5.59442 secs
> F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.424895 secs
> H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.52801 secs
> Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 7.81964 secs
> NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/Agent.NDB trojan 2.0897 secs
> Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.57242 secs
> Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.75718 secs
> VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Obfuscated.a 2.11022 secs
> VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.27767 secs
>
>
> Wow, Avast missed this one too...
>
> -----------------
> ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.876894 secs
> avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00519991 secs
> AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.ABI 1.41969 secs
> Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.25413 secs
> BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.18134 secs
> ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.0753601 secs
> Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Webcon 5.59162 secs
> F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.524634 secs
> H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.52827 secs
> Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.48965 secs
> NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Agent trojan 2.23972 secs
> Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 5.46443 secs
> Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.79051 secs
> VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Small.jm 2.1101 secs
> VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.69238 secs
>
>
>
> All tested files are new. All are part of a very NASTY Adware-RootKit
> combo.
>
>
> AVG did as well as AntiVir in the above but it is "my opinion" that
> AntiVir is better than
> AVG and Avast and is the *best* in the FREE AV family.
>

Sorry David, but I'll remain the "doctor" ; )

The original poster was concerned that Avast missed many "viruses". My reply
asked for a list of missed "viruses". Not adware/spyware, of which Avast and
most other a/v's are still in their infancy in detecting.
Regarding your "tests", the following can be clearly seen:
For Adware/Spyware Virtumonde.DA.56 , only 4 of 15 programs tested were able
to find this.
For Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 only 7 of 15 tested were able to detect this.
For Trojan/Small.JM.10 only 6 of 15 tested came up with this one.

This limited test of 1 particular adware/rootkit certainly does not validate
any claim that Avast a/v is particularly worse than other a/v's. Quite the
contrary, as only 7 of the 15 a/v's that were tested were able to make a
detection in any 1 of the 3 tests.
Surprisingly, F-Prot, and Sophos (and also Norman?), are all paid-for a/v
programs, and I see that none of them were able to make a detection in any
of the 3 tests.

pc doc
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In article <QepJg.9073$4O4.4703@trnddc02>,
DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...
> Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.77669 secs

When was this? They're up to 6.x now...
Or is it coz of the platform you've scanned from?
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From: "Befunge Sudoku" <daviddotbudd.DeleteThis@manchester.ac.uk>

| In article <QepJg.9073$4O4.4703@trnddc02>,
| DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...
>> Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.77669 secs
|
| When was this? They're up to 6.x now...
| Or is it coz of the platform you've scanned from?

Its a CLS on a (un-named) online scanner similar to Virus Total.
Due to VT being busy, I chose a defferient service. Sine "we" don't want that service to
get "swamped" like Jotti and VT, I won't mention it's name.

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From: "pc doctor" <msuhm.RemoveThis@excite.com>


| Sorry David, but I'll remain the "doctor" ; )
|
| The original poster was concerned that Avast missed many "viruses". My reply
| asked for a list of missed "viruses". Not adware/spyware, of which Avast and
| most other a/v's are still in their infancy in detecting.
| Regarding your "tests", the following can be clearly seen:
| For Adware/Spyware Virtumonde.DA.56 , only 4 of 15 programs tested were able
| to find this.
| For Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 only 7 of 15 tested were able to detect this.
| For Trojan/Small.JM.10 only 6 of 15 tested came up with this one.
|
| This limited test of 1 particular adware/rootkit certainly does not validate
| any claim that Avast a/v is particularly worse than other a/v's. Quite the
| contrary, as only 7 of the 15 a/v's that were tested were able to make a
| detection in any 1 of the 3 tests.
| Surprisingly, F-Prot, and Sophos (and also Norman?), are all paid-for a/v
| programs, and I see that none of them were able to make a detection in any
| of the 3 tests.
|
| pc doc
|

Sorry is correct. As I indicated "All tested files are new." and "...part of a very NASTY
Adware-RootKit combo".

/* All the files were PREVIOUSLY submitted to all the companies listed in the test. */

The fact remains. Avast missed them -- period.

You stated "Surprisingly, F-Prot, and Sophos (and also Norman?), are all paid-for a/v" yep,
and they were submitted to them ! However, it should be noted that sophos will NOT detect
Virtumonde Adware. They are making a NEW anti malware utility that will but the versions on
the online scanners do NOT have engines and signatures for adware and other non-viral
malware.


Should I do some more ?

It's pretty easy
{ just time consuming }

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From: "pc doctor" <msuhm.TakeThisOut@excite.com>


| Sorry David, but I'll remain the "doctor" ; )
|
| The original poster was concerned that Avast missed many "viruses". My reply
| asked for a list of missed "viruses". Not adware/spyware, of which Avast and
| most other a/v's are still in their infancy in detecting.
| Regarding your "tests", the following can be clearly seen:
| For Adware/Spyware Virtumonde.DA.56 , only 4 of 15 programs tested were able
| to find this.
| For Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 only 7 of 15 tested were able to detect this.
| For Trojan/Small.JM.10 only 6 of 15 tested came up with this one.
|
| This limited test of 1 particular adware/rootkit certainly does not validate
| any claim that Avast a/v is particularly worse than other a/v's. Quite the
| contrary, as only 7 of the 15 a/v's that were tested were able to make a
| detection in any 1 of the 3 tests.
| Surprisingly, F-Prot, and Sophos (and also Norman?), are all paid-for a/v
| programs, and I see that none of them were able to make a detection in any
| of the 3 tests.
|
| pc doc
|

So you know I am being fair. Here is a Virus Total report on a SDBot "virus".

Avast missed this

I am fair becausde AntiVir missed this one too.
Oh look, Microsoft missed this one too

Antivirus Version Update Result
AntiVir 6.35.1.11 08.31.2006 no virus found
Authentium 4.93.8 08.31.2006 no virus found
Avast 4.7.844.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
AVG 386 08.31.2006 no virus found
BitDefender 7.2 08.31.2006 no virus found
CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 08.31.2006 no virus found
ClamAV devel-20060426 08.31.2006 no virus found
DrWeb 4.33 08.31.2006 no virus found
eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.111 08.31.2006 no virus found
eTrust-Vet 30.3.3052 08.31.2006 no virus found
Ewido 4.0 08.31.2006 Backdoor.SdBot.avf
Fortinet 2.77.0.0 08.31.2006 W32/SDBot.BP!worm
F-Prot 3.16f 08.31.2006 no virus found
F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 08.31.2006 no virus found
Ikarus 0.2.65.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 08.31.2006 Backdoor.Win32.SdBot.avf
McAfee 4842 08.31.2006 W32/Sdbot.worm.gen.bp
Microsoft 1.1560 08.31.2006 no virus found
NOD32v2 1.1734 08.31.2006 no virus found
Norman 5.90.23 08.31.2006 SDBot.AJBM
Panda 9.0.0.4 08.31.2006 W32/Sdbot.IAM.worm
Sophos 4.09.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
Symantec 8.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
TheHacker 5.9.8.202 08.31.2006 no virus found
UNA 1.83 08.31.2006 no virus found
VBA32 3.11.1 08.30.2006 Backdoor.Win32.SdBot.avf



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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "pc doctor" <msuhm DeleteThis @excite.com>

[snip]

> So you know I am being fair. Here is a Virus Total report on a SDBot
> "virus".
>
> Avast missed this
>
> I am fair becausde AntiVir missed this one too.
> Oh look, Microsoft missed this one too
>
> Antivirus Version Update Result
> AntiVir 6.35.1.11 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Authentium 4.93.8 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Avast 4.7.844.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
> AVG 386 08.31.2006 no virus found
> BitDefender 7.2 08.31.2006 no virus found
> CAT-QuickHeal 8.00 08.31.2006 no virus found
> ClamAV devel-20060426 08.31.2006 no virus found
> DrWeb 4.33 08.31.2006 no virus found
> eTrust-InoculateIT 23.72.111 08.31.2006 no virus found
> eTrust-Vet 30.3.3052 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Ewido 4.0 08.31.2006 Backdoor.SdBot.avf
> Fortinet 2.77.0.0 08.31.2006 W32/SDBot.BP!worm
> F-Prot 3.16f 08.31.2006 no virus found
> F-Prot4 4.2.1.29 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Ikarus 0.2.65.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 08.31.2006 Backdoor.Win32.SdBot.avf
> McAfee 4842 08.31.2006 W32/Sdbot.worm.gen.bp
> Microsoft 1.1560 08.31.2006 no virus found
> NOD32v2 1.1734 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Norman 5.90.23 08.31.2006 SDBot.AJBM
> Panda 9.0.0.4 08.31.2006 W32/Sdbot.IAM.worm
> Sophos 4.09.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
> Symantec 8.0 08.31.2006 no virus found
> TheHacker 5.9.8.202 08.31.2006 no virus found
> UNA 1.83 08.31.2006 no virus found
> VBA32 3.11.1 08.30.2006 Backdoor.Win32.SdBot.avf

David, I don't question at all whether you are being fair in your testing.
And I never claimed that Avast would not miss some viruses. My original
point was that Avast is not particularly worse in detecting viruses than the
majority of other a/v products. Your test results of the adware/rootkit and
this Sdbot virus clearly back up my opinion.
By-the-way, Avast *does* detect certain versions of the Sdbot virus, but
apparently not the version that you used for your test : )

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i wana keep avast because i like it, so what i tried to do was have
avast on for real time protection and have antivir only on for
on-demand scanning....

but it doesn't work. when i install antivir without the active guard
and then restarted my pc my avast said that it disabled a number of
components in real time protection because of antivir

how to i have avast on real time and antivir on on demand without
comprising avast's real time components
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From: "pc doctor" <msuhm.DeleteThis@excite.com>


|
| David, I don't question at all whether you are being fair in your testing.
| And I never claimed that Avast would not miss some viruses. My original
| point was that Avast is not particularly worse in detecting viruses than the
| majority of other a/v products. Your test results of the adware/rootkit and
| this Sdbot virus clearly back up my opinion.
| By-the-way, Avast *does* detect certain versions of the Sdbot virus, but
| apparently not the version that you used for your test : )
|
| pc doc
|

That's may be becuase they are old.

All my samples are NEW. That's important here. you want protection against the new as well
as the well recognized.

In the case of the SDBot variant, it was captured on a Unix server that emulates Win32
vulnerabilities and captures the malware that tries to exploit the vulnerabilities.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
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