Anti-virus + Anti-spyware: Latest software opinions

"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower.TakeThisOut@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:04%Jd.24986$rs2.2122@trndny07...
>
> Sigh. Once again.
>
> "Which is best?" is a question that gets asked a great many times in this
> group, and I've been following the trends for a while, but am lost as to
> what the /current/ opinions are. So hopefully, this post isn't a simple
> rehash of all the others in the last couple weeks.
>
> Used to be it was McAfee vs. Norton for AV, and that was all there was
> worth
> mentioning in the AV universe. The others were piddling nothingness.
>
> Now it seems that there are a lot of accolades for other apps in the AV
> arena. Basically I run both Norton and AVG (Norton full time, and avg
> "once
> in a while").
>
> I am mostly concerned with bandwidth impact of my continually running 2003
> NAV auto-protect.
>
> 1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?
> 2. Which AV has the least impact on the system (perhaps this need not be a
> separate question).
> 3. Is McAfee considered to be a bigger hog of cpu bandwidth?
> 4. What is everyone's favorite anti-spyware? I am using AdAware, but am
> intrigued by McAfee's new app.
>
> *And the whopper spyware question* :
>
> 5. Is microsoft's new and free anti-spyware application any good.


I have been using Nortons for a couple of years without any problems , I
have seen in some of the threads that a lot of
people have had some problems with it. I have also installed AVG and AntiVir
on a few other computers, both seem ok.

I have been using Microsoft's anti-spyware for a little while and it seems
ok, but I also run the following.

Router
ZoneAlarm
Ad-aware
Spybot S&D
Spywareblaster
A-Squared
Winpatrol
Pestpatrol
CWShredder
Stinger
Hosts file from MVPS.org
I also use a few other utilities like XP antispy,upnp,Dcombob,gdiscan and
some Windows process monitors.
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On 27-Jan-2005, "Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower RemoveThis @replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:

> 1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?

For detection it's Kaspersky.
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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower RemoveThis @replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:04%Jd.24986$rs2.2122@trndny07...
>
> Sigh. Once again.
>
> "Which is best?" is a question that gets asked a great many times in this
> group, and I've been following the trends for a while, but am lost as to
> what the /current/ opinions are. So hopefully, this post isn't a simple
> rehash of all the others in the last couple weeks.
>
> Used to be it was McAfee vs. Norton for AV, and that was all there was
> worth
> mentioning in the AV universe. The others were piddling nothingness.
>
> Now it seems that there are a lot of accolades for other apps in the AV
> arena. Basically I run both Norton and AVG (Norton full time, and avg
> "once
> in a while").
>
> I am mostly concerned with bandwidth impact of my continually running 2003
> NAV auto-protect.
>
> 1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?
> 2. Which AV has the least impact on the system (perhaps this need not be a
> separate question).
> 3. Is McAfee considered to be a bigger hog of cpu bandwidth?
> 4. What is everyone's favorite anti-spyware? I am using AdAware, but am
> intrigued by McAfee's new app.
>
> *And the whopper spyware question* :
>
> 5. Is microsoft's new and free anti-spyware application any good?
>
>
>
> --
> Onedoctortoanother:"Ifthisismyrectalthermometer,wherethehell'smypen???"
>
>
Kaspersky Pro here. Also just started using MS Anti Spyware, which was
originally owned by Giant.

Clive
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"Gary" <zero.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> On 27-Jan-2005, "Thomas G. Marshall"
> <tgm2tothe10thpower.TakeThisOut@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?
>
> For detection it's Kaspersky.

I believe both Escan and NOD32 both use the Kaspersky engine- does this mean
basically they are the same product as Kaspersky just under different names?

Will
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Will James wrote:
> "Gary" <zero.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:6sSdnYuxK7duWGXcRVn-rg@adelphia.com...
>
>>On 27-Jan-2005, "Thomas G. Marshall"
>><tgm2tothe10thpower.RemoveThis@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?
>>
>>For detection it's Kaspersky.
>
>
> I believe both Escan and NOD32 both use the Kaspersky engine- does this mean
> basically they are the same product as Kaspersky just under different names?
>
> Will
>
>
NOD does *not* use the Kaspersky engine. I'm not sure they are even
written in the same programming language.
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"Thomas G. Marshall"
<tgm2tothe10thpower.RemoveThis@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:04%Jd.24986$rs2.2122@trndny07...
>
> Sigh. Once again.
>
> "Which is best?" is a question that gets asked a great many times in
this
> group, and I've been following the trends for a while, but am lost as
to
> what the /current/ opinions are. So hopefully, this post isn't a
simple
> rehash of all the others in the last couple weeks.

"Doing the same thing and expecting different results is a sign of
insanity"

> Used to be it was McAfee vs. Norton for AV, and that was all there was
worth
> mentioning in the AV universe. The others were piddling nothingness.

Maybe they had the advertising capital that others did not. They are
both good, but they are not the only good ones.

> Now it seems that there are a lot of accolades for other apps in the
AV
> arena. Basically I run both Norton and AVG (Norton full time, and avg
"once
> in a while").

Sounds good.

> I am mostly concerned with bandwidth impact of my continually running
2003
> NAV auto-protect.

Yep, it's a hog.

> 1. What is the best AV considered to be these days?

IMO Kapersky, F-prot, and Sophos (and maybe Norman's sandbox too). I
base my opinion on the lack of problems reported in the virus related
newsgroups, and from good detection rates as reported also. McAfee and
Norton have added too much fluff which bogs down the systems for some
peeps, but they have good detection.

> 2. Which AV has the least impact on the system (perhaps this need not
be a
> separate question).

Almost any on-demand AV.

> 3. Is McAfee considered to be a bigger hog of cpu bandwidth?

Depends on how much stuff (fluff) you have it doing.

> 4. What is everyone's favorite anti-spyware?

Prevention - safe hex.
Clean-up if prevention fails - both Ad-Aware and Spybot S&D (CWShredder
if CWS is what gotcha).

> I am using AdAware, but am
> intrigued by McAfee's new app.

Hmmm, never looked into it myself.

> *And the whopper spyware question* :
>
> 5. Is microsoft's new and free anti-spyware application any good?

Probably, but with any MS product (even one bought from another company)
it is best to let others test it for you. It wouldn't suprise me much if
that app had vulnerabilities or trapdoors.
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Lance <lltbhill DeleteThis @link_earth.net> wrote in news:35resgF4r59amU1
@individual.net:

>> 5. Is microsoft's new and free anti-spyware application any good?
>
> It's still beta. So no, it's not good yet.

I once read a letter to an editor that put it perfectly.
If the automakers made cars like MS makes an operating system, there would
be callbacks every hour, and breaks failing every microsecond.
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"Clive" <someone.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in news:_B4Kd.659$8B3.272
@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk:

> Kaspersky Pro here. Also just started using MS Anti Spyware, which was
> originally owned by Giant.

how is the MS anti-spyware and did you ever try Avast before you used
Kaspersky?
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Moe Hair coughed up:
> Lance <lltbhill.TakeThisOut@link_earth.net> wrote in news:35resgF4r59amU1
> @individual.net:
>
>>> 5. Is microsoft's new and free anti-spyware application any good?
>>
>> It's still beta. So no, it's not good yet.
>
> I once read a letter to an editor that put it perfectly.
> If the automakers made cars like MS makes an operating system, there
> would be callbacks every hour, and breaks failing every microsecond.

And using their rules, cars would stop in the middle of the road and turn
off for no reason. And everyone would think that it's to be expected.

--
"It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire."
-Thufir Hawat, Mentat and Master of Assassins to House Atreides
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skydiver coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall" wrote
>
>> "Which is best?"
>
> Avast gets my nod. [...]


Ok, wait a sec. I'm reading over and over the following:

Avast is great

and now I'm also reading in this thread

Kaperksy is great

*How are these two compared to NAV and McAfee* ?


....[rip]...

--
"It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire."
-Thufir Hawat, Mentat and Master of Assassins to House Atreides
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skydiver coughed up:
> "Thomas G. Marshall" wrote
>
>> "Which is best?"
>
> Avast gets my nod. [...]


Ok, wait a sec. I'm reading over and over the following:

Avast is great

and now I'm also reading in this thread

Kaperksy is great

*How are these two compared to NAV and McAfee* ?

And do either Kapersky or Avast have reasonable anti-spyware?

....[rip]...

--
"It's easier to be terrified by an enemy you admire."
-Thufir Hawat, Mentat and Master of Assassins to House Atreides
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"Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpower RemoveThis @replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com>
wrote in news:rjaKd.22$NV2.11@trndny01:

> How are these two compared to NAV and McAfee* ?
>
>

NAV is pretty good but doesn't seem to find as much as Avast. It's also
not as easy to configure properly. Norton Systemworks is great if you can
load it as a normal program and keep it out of resident memory and start
up. The tools are excellent.

McAfee is a real drag on resources and places itself all over the startup
and registry.
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